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Kuffarphobia via Slavery (abed)

Any ideology which accepts the use of slavery, denies the 4 freedoms. This room covers such use, upto the present day.

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Key Info

Many people are unaware of the pivotal role in the slave trade played by Muslim merchants that brought the slaves to the coast for sale, and are similarly unaware that slavery was still practised by several Islamic states well into the 20th century.  White slaves were even captured by Muslim raiders from the coasts of Europe and Britain and taken back to the Middle East. Indeed, there was a defined process of ransom for recovering those who were well enough connected. Slavery is codified in the Islamic scriptrures, and is still practised even today in Sudan, under the authority of those texts.

Timeline
1441: European slavery in Africa begins  http://www.brycchancarey.com/slavery/chrono2.htm
1590: U.K. slavery begins?
1619: U.S. slavery begins  http://www.history.com/topics/black-history/slavery
1776: U.S. founded
1833: UK abolishes slavery
1865: U.S. ends a bitter 4 year civil war to end slavery

So there was under 250 years of slavery by the UK and under 100 years by the "U.S."
Never mind that Islamic slavery and went on from 600AD till now.
Never mind that Islamic slavery took nearly as many slaves and castrated them.
Never mind that white Christians got slavery abolished, unlike Muslims that still do it now, and still have slavery, and even sex slaves, codified in the official texts of Sharia Law.

Reliance of the Traveler is the classic manual of Islamic Sacred Law written by Ahmad ibn Naqib al-Misri (d 1368 AD). For those of us who do not know Arabic, Nuh Ha Mim Keller provided a revised edition which shows Arabic and English in parallel (Amana publications 1991).  It is an essential resource for people studying Islam and is an important part of the Shariah, including the Quran and the Hadiths (the words and example of Mohammad). According to Wikipedia, many countries in the world use at least part of the Shariah in their legal system, including Afghanistan, Algeria, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Brunei, Comoros, Djibouti, Egypt, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Gambia, Gaza Strip, Ghana, India, Iran, Iraq, Israel, Jordan, Kenya, Kuwait, Lebanon, Libya, Malaysia, Maldives, Mauritania, Morocco, Oman, Pakistan, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Singapore, Somalia, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Syria, Tanzania, Uganda, West Bank, and Yemen.

K32.1 Women and children of the land that has been conquered are considered booty of the war and they are considered slaves. Everything belongs to the Imam first and after he takes a fifth of the booty the rest is given to the soldiers who were involved in the war. If the slave becomes a Muslim this conversion does not set him free and he will stay a slave. Captivity is the absolute consequence of Muslims war with non-Muslims and is not exclusive to elementary Jihad or defensive Jihad, even in the presence of the prophet or Imam and with their permission. If Jihad was done without the permission of prophet or Imam, all the booty is given to the Imam.

K32.2 If the father and mother were brought as slaves all the children are considered slaves. Being a slave is inherited from parents to child. If the parents convert to Islam the children will still be slaves, and they belong to the owner of their family. The master can sell the children to someone else without the parents’ consent. Male slaves and female slaves are considered the property of their master and he is allowed to treat them the way he wants. The satisfaction of the slave does not matter. The slave is responsible to keep his/her master satisfied. The slave eats, drinks and wears whatever the master decides and must live where the master says. He/she should clothe him/herself the way the master decides and speak and behave the way the master says.

K32.3 The master who owns a woman slave can use her in any way for his sexual pleasure; he can marry her if he wants. In intercourse the satisfaction of the female slave is not important at all. The female slave does not have to be Muslim convert. Even if she is pagan the sexual intercourse is Halal (permissible). A female Muslim is not allowed to have sexual relation with her slave without marriage. The male slaves are considered “mahram (impermissible, taboo)”.  The Koran has emphasized this point. The Mola (Master) not only has the right to marry his female slave without her consent but he is also allowed to lend her to another man without her consent to have sexual intercourse without marriage. He also has the authority to marry her to one of his male slaves.

K32.4 The master is allowed to cancel the marriage of his male and female slaves without “Talagh (divorce)”. It is enough for the master to order them to separate and they must obey. The female slave does not have to hide her hair, neck and head while saying Muslim prayer “Namaz “. The Hijab of the female slave must be different from those of the wife and daughters of the master.

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Discussion Forum

White Slavery

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Antony Jan 26. 5 Replies

Rape and Slavery in the New Caliphate

Started by Joe. Last reply by Alan Lake Apr 3, 2018. 27 Replies

The Arab Slave Trade - by Dr Marcus Garvey Jr

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Sep 26, 2017. 1 Reply

Islamic Farming of Human Children (Devshirme)

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Philip Smeeton May 28, 2016. 2 Replies

Slavery Now: Saudi Arabia

Started by Joe. Last reply by Antony Jan 23, 2016. 6 Replies

Slave Chains

Started by shiva. Last reply by Alan Lake Oct 16, 2015. 1 Reply

Arabs and the Slave Trade

Started by Joe. Last reply by Joe Oct 10, 2015. 20 Replies

Islam codifies slavery

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Philip Smeeton Oct 10, 2015. 3 Replies

UN Slavery Report 1951

Started by Joe. Last reply by Joe Jun 4, 2015. 5 Replies

10 Facts About The Arab Enslavement Of Black People

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Philip Smeeton Jan 8, 2015. 1 Reply

CNN: Slavery's Last Stronghold

Started by Joe. Last reply by Joe Nov 14, 2014. 1 Reply

Sex Slaves Market and Harem

Started by Indoeuropean. Last reply by Joe Aug 7, 2013. 1 Reply

Overview: Slavery, Islam and White Guilt

Started by Joe. Last reply by paul collings Aug 4, 2013. 1 Reply

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Comment by Philip Smeeton on Saturday

All of the "great" civilisations had slaves.

Comment by Alan Lake on Saturday

That was an epic shutdown! I like her final part as well, that the descendants of the 2000 British seamen that died fighting to stop slavery worldwide, should also receive reparations.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on Friday

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz5I_A5bQTk&list=TLPQMjMwOTIwMj...
(British royal expert on slavery and reparations-African kings rounded up their own people and sold them.)
Whites and other races have also been slaves and serfs.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on Friday

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqNCf8umxjM
(The Arab Slave Trade went on for more than a thousand years in East Africa).
The Anglo Zanzibar War - The Shortest War in History.
(The English ended the slave trade).

Comment by Philip Smeeton on May 19, 2022 at 22:37

The slavery abolitionists like the leftist liberals of today mistakenly believed that the blacks were equal in ability with the whites. Had this been so the freed black nations like Haiti and Jamaica would be thriving and industrious today. When all measure of effort has been put from the outside into creating stable and prosperous African nations and has failed, the fault has to be with the Africans.
I wish the whole slave business had never begun, we would be better off now if it hadn't.
Then as now would be philosophers like Adam Smith speculate about how things ought to be and get it wrong.
Do-gooders then as now do more harm than good. They identify with those they perceive as oppressed and portray these oppressed not just as someone ill-treated but they give them a noble character that they do not possess, while demonising and condemning their own race.
No man should be a slave, or an oppressed and exploited worker or serf. But giving people a strength of character and a nobility that they do not possess is going too far.
This compensation to slave owners was a debt that the British taxpayers only recently made the final payment on for the loans entered into by the state at that time.
Slavery was prevalent throughout human history and existed in most cultures, so we should not be required to feel more guilt than any others. In fact the British were the first in history to end enslavement.

Comment by Alan Lake on May 18, 2022 at 23:43
Comment by Alan Lake on April 8, 2022 at 23:56
Comment by Philip Smeeton on December 10, 2021 at 8:22

Slaves were taken from the south coast of England too by barbary corsairs.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbary_pirates
-they engaged in Razzias, raids on European coastal towns and villages, mainly in Italy, France, Spain, and Portugal, but also in the British Isles,[1] the Netherlands, and Iceland.[2] The main purpose of their attacks was to capture slaves for the Ottoman slave trade as well as the general Arab slavery market in North Africa and the Middle East.

Comment by Alan Lake on December 10, 2021 at 0:26
Comment by Alan Lake on November 21, 2021 at 14:45

An excellent article, full of historical data, which will unfortunately never get widespread release in the MSM.

It's main argument is  a good one though. That if reparations are to be paid to black people from West Africa, the money should be levied from the ancestors of the black West Africans that ran the slave trade, according to the Angolan model.

 

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