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Slavery Victims

Any ideology which accepts the use of slavery, denies the 4 freedoms. This room covers such use, upto the present day.

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Many people are unaware of the pivotal role in the slave trade played by Muslim merchants that brought the slaves to the coast for sale, and are similarly unaware that slavery was still practised by several Islamic states well into the 20th century.  White slaves were even captured by Muslim raiders from the coasts of Europe and Britain and taken back to the Middle East. Indeed, there was a defined process of ransom for recovering those who were well enough connected. Slavery is codified in the Islamic scriptrures, and is still practised even today in Sudan, under the authority of those texts.

The Islamic Slave Trade:

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Arabs and the Slave Trade

Started by Joe. Last reply by paul collings Jun 27. 16 Replies

CNN: Slavery's Last Stronghold

Started by Joe. Last reply by Joe Nov 14, 2014. 1 Reply

Sex Slaves Market and Harem

Started by Indoeuropean. Last reply by Joe Aug 7, 2013. 1 Reply

Overview: Slavery, Islam and White Guilt

Started by Joe. Last reply by paul collings Aug 4, 2013. 1 Reply

Slave Chains

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Comment by Joe on June 2, 2015 at 18:43

Here's a tourist book from 1833, casually discussing slaves and slavery in Constantinople.

Comment by Antony on February 24, 2015 at 11:09
Comment by Antony on December 21, 2014 at 17:32
Comment by Joe on December 19, 2014 at 9:31

2 Mohammedans (named "Mohammed" too) in Oldham are being prosecuted for keeping a bunch of Slovakian men and women as slaves.

Comment by Alan Lake on December 8, 2014 at 18:46

The Economist: Jihadists boast of selling captive women as concubines

THE holy book is clear about what to do when you capture a city: “Put to the sword all the men in it”. As for the women and children, “You may take these as plunder for yourselves.” This is pretty much the advice that the fighters of Islamic State (IS) seem to have followed in the Sinjar area of northern Iraq, peopled largely by members of the Yazidi faith, that the jihadists seized last month. Reports by the UN and independent human-rights groups suggest that the invaders executed hundreds of Yazidi men and kidnapped as many as 2,000 women and children.

Any doubt as to the fate of these captives was dispelled by the latest issue of IS’s glossy English-language online magazine, Dabiq. An article titled “The Revival of Slavery Before the Hour” details religious justifications for reintroducing a practice that ended in all but a few Muslim countries more than a century ago. It claims not only that the Koran, the sayings of the prophet and traditional Islamic law all endorse the enslavement of infidel women captured in wartime, but that the abandonment of this right has caused sin to spread; men are easily tempted to debauchery when denied this “legal” alternative to marriage.

Better yet, the article grimly enthuses, the prophet himself foretold that one of the signs of the Hour—the end of the world—was when “the slave girl gives birth to her master.” This obviously means that concubines are needed to breed soldiers for jihad. Therefore, explains the writer, the victorious warriors of Sinjar divided the Yazidi women and children among themselves, “after one fifth of the slaves were transferred to the Islamic State’s authority as khums”, ie, the share of booty surrendered to early Muslim commanders.

The fastidious theologians of IS are right in some respects. Technically speaking, the syncretic Yazidi faith may be regarded by Islam as heathen, denying its adherents the protections that Christians and Jews—fellow “people of the book”—should enjoy. And it is true, too, that Islamic scripture, although vague in many matters, is specific about slavery, including such questions as whether sex is permitted. In recent times Muslim rebels in Sudan as well as in Nigeria have used such arcane justifications to excuse enforced concubinage.

Yet the fact is that, like members of most faiths, the vast majority of Muslims have pragmatic concerns about hyper-literal interpretations. Mainstream Muslim clerics, citing competing verses and traditions that praise the freeing of slaves as a virtuous act, often describe Islam’s abandonment of slavery as a sign of its adaptability to modern times. Besides, imagine if Christians and Jews still followed the letter of the Bible, which is, incidentally, the source of the passage at the top of this article. The verse (Deuteronomy 20:10-20) also prescribes that in case of capturing a city from the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites or Jebusites, the victors should “utterly destroy them” and “save alive nothing that breatheth”.

Comment by Antony on November 23, 2014 at 17:05
Comment by Philip Smeeton on August 31, 2014 at 12:08

That's cheap, I expect that they are a top export commodity in the Arab world.

Comment by Joe on August 31, 2014 at 9:10

The Caliphate taking women as slaves, selling them for $25.

Comment by Alan Lake on August 20, 2014 at 2:10

Of course, you wouldn't be allowed to produce such a video nowadays.  Rather than stop such cruel slavery, the cowards would rather beware of "offending" Islam.

Comment by Antony on August 19, 2014 at 12:49

islam & Slavery


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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So 4F has categorised a subset of its depredations in a way that allows principal information to be retrieved for argument.  

We need to capture this information because it is slowly being removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But they also require - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to police these vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Religion
Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight - except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)
4. SP Freedom from Electoral Fraud
The import of new voters by immigration is only allowed if it can be shown not to favour any political party

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