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It takes a nation to protect the nation

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"Read this to grasp the scale of the problem in France.  http://takimag.com/article/l…"

Joe replied Feb 9 to France Will be the First to Acknowledge the Civil War with Islam

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Joe replied Jan 16 to France Will be the First to Acknowledge the Civil War with Islam

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"Months after this thread started the experts from the Royal United Services Institut…"

Joe replied Jan 16 to France Will be the First to Acknowledge the Civil War with Islam

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"I wish I'd laid odds at the bookies about this. I could have minted it in.  France h…"

Joe replied Jul 17, 2016 to France Will be the First to Acknowledge the Civil War with Islam

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"It is the job of journalists, academics, clergy, politicians, teachers to keep impor…"

Joe replied Mar 29, 2016 to Major Islamic Terror Atrocities: all TooFKD

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"The chattering classes laughed at Americans saying there were no-go zones in Britain…"

Joe replied Mar 23, 2016 to Brussels 3/22 Bombings (2016)

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"Belgians reporting on how Muslims were standing round in Brussels laughing and danci…"

Joe replied Mar 23, 2016 to Brussels 3/22 Bombings (2016)

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"First time I've seen an attempt to extrapolate & quantify the death toll of the…"

Joe replied Jan 12, 2016 to France Will be the First to Acknowledge the Civil War with Islam

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"France to close down 160 mosques containing arms caches. https://cqrcengage.com/act/…"

Joe replied Jan 12, 2016 to France Will be the First to Acknowledge the Civil War with Islam

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"That's quite a disappointing article. Whilst it is excellent as far as it goes, it d…"

Joe replied Dec 31, 2015 to The Religious Foundations of Suicide Bombings - David Bukay, Middle East Quarterly

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Muslim Terrorism Count

Thousands of Deadly Islamic Terror Attacks Since 9/11

Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom of Movement
The government can import new voters - except where that changes the political demographics (i.e. electoral fraud by means of immigration)
4. SP Freedom from Over-spending
People should not be charged for government systems which they reject, and which give them no benefit. For example, the government cannot pass a debt burden across generations (25 years).
An additional Freedom from Religion is be deducible by equal application of law: "Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight - except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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