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It takes a nation to protect the nation

In the last 3 years there have been at least 3 cases I can recollect where muslims were found at water treatment plants in the US.  In one case, the muslims caught were all chemists/scientists, found at a water plant at night.

Here's 3 of the cases:

State Police say the five men and two women are from Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and Singapore, and “cited their education and career interests” for being in the area. The men told police they were chemical engineers and recent college graduates.

The Quabbin, in Belchertown, is one of the country’s largest man-made public water supplies. Boston’s drinking water comes from the Quabbin and the Wachusett Reservoirs.

I'm sure to the vast majority of the population, it just seems unconscionable that muslim terrorists could target the water supply.  What could they possibly hope to achieve?  Surely they couldn't be planning to poison a city's water supply?  Well, no-one ever expected them to fly planes into the WTC or to bomb the Tube.

Then last week I was flicking through the documentary channels, when  I came across a programme about The Jewish Avengers.  After watching the documentary, I asked a few well-informed people if they had ever heard of these people.  Two friends said "no", and one -- fairly steeped in jewish history -- told me he had read about them in serious books a couple of years ago.

In 1946, a group of jews set about poisoning the water supply of major German cities.  Their goal was to kill 6 million random Germans. And they came very close to pulling it off (the leader made what seems like a foolish choice in transporting the poison to Germany).  In the documentary, several of The Jewish Avengers were interviewed, and their only regrets were that they had failed to kill these 6 million random Germans.

Their chosen method was the poisoning of the water supply of five German cities. Cohen says the targets were Munich, Berlin, Weimar, Nuremberg and Hamburg, and before long the Avengers had placed workers inside the cities' water filtration plants. Harmatz recalls days and nights studying blueprints of waterworks, working out how to avoid shutting off the supply to American residential areas, ensuring only Germans were struck. "Everything was in place, waiting for permission to proceed," he writes.[...] Kovner, with two canisters of poison in his backpack, was arrested by British military police while on a ship bound for Europe: he had been betrayed.

Long before 9/11, Hollywood movies had conceived of the possibility of terrorism by flying planes into buildings.  And it is clear, that 70 years ago, terrorists had come very close to killing 6 million by poisoning the water.

In the light of this historical close call, incidents of muslim chemists being caught at night in water treatment plants are very serious.  We know that muslim terrorists like "spectacular" attacks.  If I had to assess which was more difficult, poisoning the water supply or hijacking 2 jumbo jets and flying them into the WTC, I'd say the latter seemed more difficult.  That the Jewish Avengers had their staff in the treatment plants, and were just awaiting the delivery of the poison shows how this appears to be entirely feasible.

Just like there were warnings about 9/11 that the American authorities appeared to ignore, it seems people are not paying serious attention to this threat. 

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Hmmm... maybe he was a muslim after all.

Was killer pilot radicalised by mosque before fatal plane crash?

THE co-pilot who flew 149 people to their deaths may have been radicalised after converting to Islam.

The world is looking for an answer as to why Andreas Lubitz "intentionally and deliberately" crashed the Germanwings plane into the French Alps, becoming one of the world's worst mass murderers.

He had apparently suffered from depression in the past and had to take a break from his pilot training, with the German airliner apparently checking regularly on his mental wellbeing.

But today a sinister new line of speculation emerged that Lubitz could have carried out the horrific crash because he was a Muslim extremist.

Anti-Islam blog writer Michael Mannheimer claims that during this break, Lubitz "converted to Islam" and "either by the order of the 'radical', ie. devout Muslims, or received the order from the book of terror, the Quran, on his own accord decided to carry out this mass murder" (sic).

The far-right commentator then claims a mosque in Germany is at the centre of the investigations into Lubitz – although this has not been confirmed.

Personally, I doubt it is true that he had converted to islam.  It will be very shocking if he did.  I would have expected some fanatical convert to grow a beard (so many do).  But it could be that islam draws to it nutters who want to kill and/or who want to die.

paul collings said:

I read this yesterday but didn't post it because a statement was released that said all the speculation started when a British paper used a bad translation in reporting a conversation.

Pamela  Geller took a screen shoot of an Islamic fan page which leaves you wondering if someone knew something more about Lubitz.

Lets see if a Journalist will go find someone from the Mosque to find out if Lubitz was a convert. Although the Mosque is not named, there can't be many around the area, plus his ex girlfriend should know. Im sure this story could be nipped in the bud quick enough if someone just made a bit of effort.

Another win for 4F!  You read about this tactic here first, folks :-)

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