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It takes a nation to protect the nation

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"In the last years of his life my dad used to doorstep his priest after mass, asking…"

Joe replied Mar 16, 2021 to Pope Francis: Enemy of Christianity and Europe

29 Mar 16, 2021
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"I suspect Brubaker is going to have to disappear, I doubt he will remain an academi…"

Joe replied Feb 20, 2021 to The historical veracity of Islam and Mohammed

2 Feb 20, 2021
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"That's exactly the same comparison made by Peter McLoughlin in Easy Meat. He says th…"

Joe replied May 11, 2017 to Maajid Nawaz on Islam vs Islamism?

15 Sep 7, 2021
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"That entire medium expose is ludicrously long & over-detailed. All that's needed…"

Joe replied May 9, 2017 to Maajid Nawaz on Islam vs Islamism?

15 Sep 7, 2021
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"Since Muslims (or at least Sunni Muslims) rely on abrogation, they need to construct…"

Joe replied Jun 11, 2016 to Quran 9.5: qualified or not?

24 Jun 12, 2016
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"Throwing Libtards and Alan Lake into consternation (for different reasons), Al Beeba…"

Joe replied Jun 11, 2016 to Quran 9.5: qualified or not?

24 Jun 12, 2016
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"I believe Koran-only Muslims are chimeras, unicorns, fairies.  They cannot even calc…"

Joe replied Jun 11, 2016 to Quran 9.5: qualified or not?

24 Jun 12, 2016
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"I wasn't sure where to put this. It had to be somewhere to do with Islam and war. Th…"

Joe replied Mar 12, 2016 to "Islam is the religion of peace" - archaeology of a trope

13 Mar 12, 2016
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"What follows is an extract from the French Ministry of War. A more accurate account…"

Joe replied Feb 10, 2016 to "Islam is the religion of peace" - archaeology of a trope

13 Mar 12, 2016
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"in a letter on pan-islamism and the Caliphate So, this guy is basically a totalitari…"

Joe replied Feb 10, 2016 to "Islam is the religion of peace" - archaeology of a trope

13 Mar 12, 2016
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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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