The 4 Freedoms Library

It takes a nation to protect the nation


Apartheid in Life and in Death


Muslim Cemeteries near Solihull

Two applications come before the planning committee next month. They are for Muslim-only cemeteries near the village of Catherine-de-Barnes in Solihull, near Birmingham.

These applications are for two sites covering 11 acres on viable farmland situated within the Green Belt conservation zone. They would have room for 11,000 Muslim graves. The local authority and national planning regulations both expressly forbid development in Green Belt areas.

(links: and

Of course, people (or their cremated remains) need to be buried somewhere but the uproar over this proposal is that it is simply not necessary in order to deal with the needs of the local population, which consists of just 613 people. It would mean the facility could eventually hold over 18 times as many people as currently live in the village itself.

The leader of Solihull Council, Conservative councillor Bob Sleigh, has said: ‘There is no need for this extra site in Solihull. We have identified our population need and made provision for that.’ So obviously this is a long-term project to gather together dead Muslims from all over the Midlands if not further afield.

Local authorities deal with the issue of burials for the local populations all the time as the Solihull councillors have done. Therefore the issue is not whether there is space for the local population. The heart of the problem is the Islamic attitude that even the Muslim dead are better than the non-Muslim dead. As in life so in death. In life, Muslims are better than non-Muslims and are not supposed to befriend unbelievers. ‘Take not for friends unbelievers rather than believers…’ (Quran 3:28 and 4:144). Muslims are only supposed to associate with non-Muslims to conduct necessary business. And in Quran 9:28 non-Muslims are considered ritually unclean.

 ‘O you who believe (in Allah’s Oneness and in His Messenger (Muhammad SAW)! Verily, the Mushrikun (polytheists, pagans, idolaters, disbelievers in the Oneness of Allah, and in the Message of Muhammad SAW) are Najasun (impure).’

We see this attitude all around us. From refusing non-Muslim handshakes, to Muslim-only swimming sessions, segregated classrooms, separate law courts (preferring sharia courts), Legoland fun and games, food preparation and consumption, complying with normal hygiene standards in hospitals, equal treatment over the counter at supermarkets and theatres, etc.

It is no wonder that such bigotry in life carries over into death. But there is more. According to The Reliance of the Traveller (the classical handbook of Islamic theology and understanding) Muslims must not even share the same grave with other Muslims. ‘It is also unlawful to bury two people in the same grave…’ (*2*Chapter G5.0: Burial @G5.1). So they take up more space than non-Muslim grave sites where families can, and sometimes do, share graves.

According to Islam, non-Muslims are destined for hell so why should a Muslim, even in death, want to risk that contamination? During one of his many battles Mohammed made it clear to his adversary that, ‘We are not equal. Our dead are in paradise, your dead in hell.’ (Ibn Ishaq, 386).

This sentiment is confirmed in The Reliance of the Traveller: ‘One must know that Allah Most High with His vast mercy, is terrible in retribution, having decreed that unbelievers shall abide in hell forever (dis: w55)’

The local paper says: ‘The graveyard would be able to comply fully with Sharia law which states Muslims are traditionally buried in their own section of land, next to others of the same faith.’

Absolute necessity allows for Muslims to be buried in a non-Muslim graveyard, but, if at all possible: ‘The deceased Muslims must be buried in a graveyard that is exclusively for them. It is not permissible to bury them in non-Muslim graveyards.’ The reverse is also true: Non-Muslims must not be buried in the same site as Muslims. [ ]

A final point to mention is that a Muslim grave is perpetual. ‘It is not permissible to disturb them, whether by digging up the remains, walking over the graves or any other form of disrespect.’ []

So we are once again confronted with Sharia-pushers who, refusing to integrate during their lifetime, continue that same non-integration into death. The encroachment on our ‘green and pleasant land’ becomes a territorial conquest which becomes less and less England and more and more like Mecca.

The EDL supports the local opposition to this cemetery and will be giving a shout out about it during our next demo in Birmingham on 11 October. Join us!

Tags: Apartheid, Cemeteries, Kinana

Views: 77

Replies to This Discussion

New £300,000 Muslim cemetery plan as city set to run out of Islamic burial spaces
The council must act to stop Liverpool becoming the only major city without a specific site for Islamic burials.

A new £300,000 Muslim cemetery that is set to be developed - because the city is running out of Islamic burial spaces.

The Muslim burial section which exists with Allerton Cemetery will become full within the next year and if the council does not act Liverpool will become the only major city in the country not to have a specific burial area to fulfil the cultural and religious requirements of the Muslim community.

Oh no what is to be done?  There is plenty of space in other parts of the world.

It adds: “Given that the Muslim community have specific cultural and religious requirements, there are no alternative options, other than to not provide a specific burial area.

God forbid that we treat these people like normal everyday British citizens.

And they just keep on rolling in

Decision expected on proposed Harold Wood Muslim cemetery plan

11 January 2017

The proposals have been met with fierce objection from members of the community.

A Recorder poll showed, 100 per cent of people who voted thought planning permission should not be granted...

But Muslims need to be buried as soon as possible after death, in virgin ground, prayer and ablution facilities and facing Mecca.

This proposal is to be put on Green Belt land.  This makes sense because as we know Muslims are special people, indeed the best of peoples.

"Ye are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in Allah. If only the People of the Book had faith, it were best for them: among them are some who have faith, but most of them are perverted transgressors."

Quran 3:110


Proposals for land to be converted into a Muslim cemetery – with up to 10,000 burial spaces – has been given the green light.

“It’s good news,” said Gardens of Peace founding member Farouk Ismail.

“I don’t like upsetting anyone from any community.

“I like community cohesion and we are going to do our very best to make everyone happy. That is what’s important.”

Lie.  What's important is you getting what you want!


Page Monitor

Just fill in the box below on any 4F page to be notified when it changes.

Privacy & Unsubscribe respected

Muslim Terrorism Count

Thousands of Deadly Islamic Terror Attacks Since 9/11

Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

© 2023   Created by Netcon.   Powered by

Badges  |  Report an Issue  |  Terms of Service