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The Pope is now part of the problem, and the enemy of freedom and European values.

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The Pope: “Europe must change” . . . “in the end, Europe will smile to migrants”

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So according to Pope Francis “Europe is like Sara,” the non-child bearing wife of Abraham, “which first gets scared but then smiles secretly” and he said that “in the end, Europe will smile to migrants.

Europe must and can change. It can and must reform itself. If it is unable to financially help the countries of origin of refugees, you must face the problem of how to address this great challenge that is primarily humanitarian, but not all.

But the thing is, when he says “Europe” he’s not talking about Vatican city – the micro-country he lives in. Vatican city has only taken in two “refugee” families. There are many parks which could be converted into “refugee” camps. So why has this not even been proposed? Why are there no refugee camps next to the Vatican?

What’s even more interesting is that in September 2015, an Arab journalist posed as a Syrian “refugee”, then asked priests and Vatican city officials to give him help, only to be sent away on all occasions.

And this is after the Pope called on “every parish, every religious community, every monastery, every sanctuary of Europe” to take in at least one immigrant family.

Is it me or does this smell a bit like hypocrisy? Well, maybe I do smell . . . but the hypocrisy is nose-burningly bad.

The EU leaders, big business leaders, “anti-racists”, and etc are all pushing this on us suckers, but they don’t even have the integrity to live in one of these “diverse” areas that they whined for.

Their “diversity” agenda is just a codeword for White genocide.

http://whitegenocideproject.com/the-pope-europe-must-change-in-the-...

Apoplectic Pope: Francis loses temper after crowd pushes him onto wheelchair user (VIDEO)

Pope Francis has proven he is “only human” after losing his cool with some eager worshippers in Mexico, who pushed him on to a man in a wheelchair.

The pontiff was visiting a stadium in the western city of Morelia as part of his six-day trip to Mexico when people in the crowd tugged at the pope, pulling him closer and ultimately onto a man in a wheelchair.

Even after the pope fell on the disabled man’s head the crowd persisted tugging, causing him to lose his cool. Francis tells the crowd in Spanish: "Don't be selfish, don't be selfish."

Crowd tugs Pope during Mexico trip  Pope Francis loses his cool in Mexico
Posted by RT Play on Wednesday, February 17, 2016

While his actions were a change from his usually calm demeanour, many people defended the Argentinian pontiff’s outburst online.

“He's been visiting the slums, he's in a different climate, he'd be tired, he's trying to please everyone knowing that he's vulnerable to rough people in the crowds and is trying to do the right thing then this almost stumbles him. Anyone would lose their cool just asking for some common sense to prevail, to be gentle since he's just a simple old man,”  Emily Burton wrote on Facebook.

“Well, He did told us that even He could get angry too.... Remember when he said that He will punch us if we insults His mother?”  Janes Sugianto Limantara commented.

Others reiterated the point he is “only a human being”.

Pope Francis gets angry at crowds pulling him over onto man in a wheelchair
Extraordinary footage has emerged of Pope Francis getting angry at a crowd of people who pulled him over during a visit to a city in Mexico. He was on a walkabout at a stadium in Morelia when his...

metro.co.uk

https://www.rt.com/news/332757-pope-francis-loses-temper/

Pope Hails Election of Sadiq Khan, Celebrates Mass Muslim Migration Into Europe

The Pope has hailed the election of Sadiq Khan as “Muslim” mayor of London, claimed mass Muslim migration is “necessary” for Europe, and blamed Paris and Brussels for the attacks on European soil.

In an interview with French newspaper  La Croix, Pope Francis strongly implied that the terrorists who attacked Paris and Brussels did so because they “grew up in a ghetto.”

He also applauded the election of Muslim mayor of London, Sadiq Khan, stating it “illustrates the need for Europe to rediscover its capacity to integrate,” evoking “Pope Gregory the Great, who negotiated with the people known as barbarians who were subsequently integrated.”

However, the situation of mass Muslim migration that Europe now faces is distinctly different: the “barbarians” (the term referring in this case to Franks, Lombards and Visigoths) were Europeans, and did not follow a religion which historically, violently, conquered dozens of countries and preached supremacy.

Even today, the Muslim country Indonesia is currently committing what has been widely described as a genocide against Christian West Papuans with mass migration, violence and the banning of Papuan nationalism.

Pope Francis also claimed Europe’s declining birth rate is a “grave problem” that makes mass Muslim migration “necessary.” He described this “demographic emptiness” as a result of “a selfish search for well-being.”

The Pope stated that Muslims and Christians need to learn to live peacefully together, citing Lebanon as a good example of this. Though Lebanon is perhaps not the best illustration for the Pontiff to draw upon.

Lebanon was a majority Christian country up until the 1960s.  In the 1970s, after an influx of Muslim refugees, tens of thousands of Christians were ethnically cleansed from the country.

Since 2005 there have been as many as 14 terrorist attacks a year in Lebanon, and the UK government’s travel advice on Lebanon advises against traveling to certain parts of the country as there is a “high threat from terrorism.”

Pope Francis criticised France’s “exaggeration” of the separation of church and state, expressing disapproval of the country’s ban on the niqab in public places. This type of veil has been banned in Muslim-majority countries Azerbaijan and Chad.  Polls show the vast majority of people in Islamic countries, apart from Saudi Arabia and Pakistan, widely disapprove of the garment.

Suggesting that the fear of migration in Europe is partly based on a fear of Islam,  Pope Francis was asked whether he felt that such fears are justified. He said he didn’t think that “there is a fear of Islam as such but of [Islamic State] and its war of conquest, which is partly drawn from Islam.”

“It is true that the idea of conquest is inherent in the soul of Islam. However, it is also possible to interpret the objective in Matthew’s Gospel, where Jesus sends his disciples to all nations, in terms of the same idea of conquest,” the Pope said.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/05/22/pope-celebrates-mass-mus...

‘Senseless & diabolical’: Pope shocked by slaughter at elderly home in Yemen
https://www.rt.com/news/334685-yemen-slaughter-shocked-pope

"The Vatican hopes that the “pointless slaughter” will lead to a change of heart and force all warring parties to “lay down their arms and take up the path of dialogue.”"

The pope is a dangerous fool.

From this Yahoo news report:

Pope Francis will visit Lesbos on April 16 to show his support for the migrants, the Vatican said.

The Pope is part of the enemy.  What a cowardly piece of shit. Note that he doesn't travel to Northern Nigeria (too dangerous) to show support for the kidnapped, raped and murdered Chibok girls.  They are only Christians after all, and he can't polish his halo for saving them.  No, he has to agitate for Muslims, in order to get the rest of the world to congratulate him on his moral superiority.  He is pure garbage.

Migrant crisis: Pope returns from Greece with 12 migrants
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36063300

Pope Francis rescues 12 Syrian Muslim refugees, takes them from Greece to Rome
https://www.rt.com/news/339831-pope-francis-refugees-plane

Our reporter, Joe Bloggs (JB) was luckily granted  an interview with Pope Francis (PF) to discuss this groundbreaking step.

JB: Your holiness, since there are millions upon millions of displaced persons in the world, could you kindly explain what you intend to achieve with this gesture?

PF: Listen, you do the math. There's 1.4 Billion Muslims on this planet.  The OIC is the most powerful voting block in the UN.  Writers, cartoonists, everyone is running like pussies and self-censoring from one end of the media to the other.  Muslims are clearly top dog at the moment, so how else do you think I'm gonna get a Nobel Peace Prize like what Obama got, for doing practically nothing, actually?

Let's face it.  Nobody gives a shit about the Buddhists being slaughtered by the insurgency in Southern Thailand (by Muslims incidentally, but nothing to do with Islam).  I mean, I bet you haven't even heard of it.

JB: Do you mean the insurgency in Iraq?

PF: No, you clueless moron, I mean the Muslim, sorry, Islamic Insurgency in Southern Thailand.  You see?  Proves my point.

Nobody gives a shit about the Christians massacred in Indonesia (also by Muslims, coincidentally).  Nor do they care about it happening in Iraq (also by Muslims) or in Syria (also by Muslims).  As for Zoroastrians and Christians and Gays killed in Iran - well, you have to be kidding me.  As far as everyone's concerned, the Muslims there can do what the hell they like, after all, its their country and its a Muslim country (although that's nothing to do with Islam ... I think).  Just give them a few more years and every single non-Muslim citizen will have been eliminated, just as in Saudi Arabia, then we can stop all this pathetic whining about it.

And then there's those bloody Chibok girls.  Do you even remember what that's about?

JB: I thought they'd escaped?

PF: Idiot, no, that's just a few.  They're still there being fucked as sex slaves and made to carry suicide bombs.  I wish Boko Haram would just finish them all off, then I wouldn't have to keep dealing with the issue.  I mean, they talk about "my flock".  What is my flock, for Christ's sake?  My flock is the whole of humanity isn't it?  So if I take a dozen migrants and stick them in the Vatican, its job done, isn't it?  Its all so bloody confusing, and I mean, Muslims don't have this confusion.  For them its quite clear, look after the Umma of Muslims only, the kuffar can just go rot.  But in my case the instructions are a lot more confusing.  So I hope you can appreciate the complexities here.

JB: Yes, I see what your holiness is saying.

PF: Anyway, I thought I could take a few of the Christians that get thrown off the boats to drown (by the Muslims again, another coincidence), but they're already dead, so what's the point?  I thought I could take some Buddhists from that great Buddhist country of Afghanistan, but it turns out they've already killed all of them as well, so I'm too late. I thought about taking some Christians from Mindanao in the Philippines where they're just being massacred, raped, FGMed, you name it, its done to them (by Muslims, as another amazing coincidence), but honestly, its a long way with connecting flights and I just couldn't be arsed.

Well, in the end, in every Muslim country in the world you find the kuffar are 2nd class citizens, but frankly, that doesn't tug anyone's heart strings, so I thought I'd just grab me a dozen pet muslim migrants to set the record straight.

JB: Do you intend to respect Muslim culture?

PF: Of course, because that's also a sign of what a great humanitarian I am (Nobel committee please take note).  And as we all know, Islam is a religion of peace, and it has given the world all the great inventions of mankind - Penicillin, the motor car and airplane, tractors and modern agriculture, space flight, cures for TB, Polio, etc - its hard to think of an area where Islamic culture hasn't benefitted mankind, so of course I will respect it.

JB: So will you allow these Muslim men to have 4 wives?

PF: Yes, obviously, I am not going to deny them that right, since it is part of their culture.  After all, the Vatican is full of men that have taken a vow to never marry, so if a few men marry 4 times, it will only help balance things out [he chortled]

JB: Ha ha, very amusing. Your holiness, turning now to practical matters, where will these Muslims pray?

PF: Well of course, I will provide them with a prayer room.

JB: If it does not face Mecca, are you prepared to make some small alterations to the building to allow them to pray properly?

The Pope hesitated slightly before responding:

PF: Err, well, I suppose so, I do have to respect their culture, after all.

JB: There are 9 males in the group, who can take 4 wives each.  Since they won't have to work and will get food and accommodation provided by you,  they can easily have 8 children per woman. So the first generation will be of 288 Muslims, of which half will be men. Do you have enough space to accommodate this number? And would you be prepared to knock through a few rooms and buildings in order to give them a bigger prayer room (or mosque)?

The Pope flushed somewhat at this point, and responded angrily:

PF: You do not understand anything at all about Christianity, you Jackass!  Christianity is about sacrifice.  Its not all Me, Me, Me, like modern society thinks!  We have to sacrifice things, in order to show the world that we are morally superior to them.  Do you get it now?

JB: Yes your holiness, I think I understand.  Well, I don't mean to be picky, but I'm just running the numbers here, and the 2nd generation will number 144*4*8, that is 4,608 Muslims.  They will require an even bigger mosque and even more accommodation.  Will the Church relinquish the Vatican in order to accommodate their needs.

The Pope turned ashen grey, but after a long pause, regained his composure.

PF: The Lord moves in mysterious ways.  Perhaps then my bishops will travel to Africa, Indonesia and the Middle East, to minister to the needs of the Christians there - if there are any left that is.  But in any case, that's all academic.  I'll be out of the job by then, hopefully with my laureate.

The Pope stared at me with a rather grim expression, so it seemed a good time to finish.

JB: Thank you very much for your time, your holiness

PF: You are welcome, and God bless you my child.

Asia Bibi's Letter to the Pope: "Only God can Free Me" -- The Silence of Amnesty International

(Lahore) Asia Bibi, Pakistan's most famous prisoner has sent   a letter to Pope Francis. The now 43 year old Pakistani Catholic has been in prison since n June 2009 for allegedly insulting Islam. Accused by two Islamic religious leaders of having engaging a  Muslim women in a dispute where she maintained that it was not Mohammed who was the "true prophet" of God, but Jesus Christ, she is the first woman to be sentenced to death in the country on  8 November 2010. Since then, she is held under particularly tight security in prison during her  appeal process. The mother of five children was sentenced under Article 295 (C) of 1986 anti-blasphemy law introduced in the Pakistan Penal Code.

Diplomatic Efforts by the Vatican For Release

In November 2011,  Pope Benedict XVI. appealed publicly to  the Pakistani government to bring an end of discrimination and violence against Christians. For a Christian, the Head of the Church explained: "Today I bring to expression my spiritual closeness especially to Mrs. Asia Bibi and her family members, while I note that she has her full freedom restored  as soon as possible ."  At the same time, the Pope sent Cardinal Jean-Louis Tauran, President of the Pontifical Council for Interreligious Dialogue to Pakistan, with a diplomatic mission to Islamabad to secure the release and departure of Asia Bibi. The mission failed because   the Pakistani government feared to release Asia Bibi because of  an Islamist insurgency. The diplomatic efforts of the Catholic side have  not been cancelled since.  Chilly silence prevails, however, from the "Heralds" in the defense of human rights. The abortion lobbyist Amnesty International has barely spent a word for Asia Bibi, while the release of  the extreme left, anti-Church,  action group Pussy Riot, or the oligarch Mikhail Khodorkovsky will be celebrated as "successes".

Christmas with the family in prison

In her letter to Pope Francis, Asia Bibi offers a personal testimony of faith. She thanked him for the divine grace that she could hold out so long. She also thanked the Holy See for the efforts toward her release. "I hope that every Christian could celebrate Christmas with joy. Like many other prisoners, I have celebrated the birth of our Lord in prison in Multan here in Pakistan. In a special way, she thanked the Catholic school and charity Renaissance Education Foundation, through which it was possible that her husband and her children were allowed to come to Multan for Christmas in the prison, to  celebrate the Solemnity together. "It would have been for me a great pleasure to have celebrated Christmas in the Vatican Basilica to pray together with you. I have confidence in the plans that God has  for me and maybe it will be possible next year."

"Only God Can Free Me"

Asia Bibi thanked all Christians who pray for her and work for her release. She wrote to the Pope about their already four and a half years in prison and  her concerns: "I do not know how long I can hold out. If I'm still alive, it is thanks to the power which was given to me through your prayers. I have met many people who support me and fight for me. So far, unfortunately without success. In this moment I want to entrust myself solely to the mercy of God who can do anything. He alone can free me."

"I Know that You Pray for Me"

In the letter to the Pope, the Pakistani mother speaks  of some of her  daily worries to prison: "This winter is especially hard: my cell is unheated, the door does not protect against the biting cold." "The security measures are inappropriate," since Asia Bibi was moved for security to the prison of Multan, her family has to travel from Lahore, which is a long way. The authorities speak of "necessities", because otherwise they could not protect the lives of prisoners.  Several calls for her death  and a bounty have been offered by Islamist organizations  for the Moslem who murders Asia Bibi.
The thanks and pleading letter to the Pope ends with the best Christmas and New Year wishes. "I know that you pray with all your heart for me. This gives me confidence that my freedom will one day be possible.  I greet you with affection in this hopeful prayer. Asia Bibi, your daughter in the faith. "

Hi Antony,

I don't think that song helps.  Its about the paedophile scandal, which the whole church and all popes bear some responsibility for.

This forum is focussed on Pope Francis alone, and his specific project, it seems, to bring Islam into Europe and to weaken the organisation he is supposed to protect, and his failure to protect any Christians who live in Africa etc, or even any that live outside his vatican citadel.

If you throw other issues into the mix, it just weakens the plot and allows enemies to misdirect the audience.  In fact, and I know you didn't mean it this way, but this kind of confusion by addition and misdirection, is a standard Muslim technique - a la Tariq Ramadan, for example.

Alan - I think it does add to the issue - if the Catholic church can't be trusted over it's handling and cover ups over the paedophile scandal - why on earth should Catholics and the rest of the West give any credence to his utterings on the population replacement by migrants ?

Antony,

that's a good point.  But there's a danger of "cutting off one's nose to spite one's face".  I can understand people hating the whole RC church because of the paedophile scandals.  But sometimes in politics, one has to swallow hard and take a tactical position.

I guess what I'm thinking of then is the issue of audiences.  Politics is all about dividing the audience up so that your message has the largest number of supporters.  Hence the classic arguing over centre positions in the UK and the US, in attempt to grab a few more voters from the middle ground.

Well, if you focus on just the fact that the Pope is bad for Europe, is against European civilisation, is destroying the Christian Church, and doesn't give a damn about all the millions of Christians being oppressed, murdered, raped and enslaved by Islam worldwide - then you should not only have the support of all Western secular democrats, you should also have the support of  nearly all Catholics as well.  It should be a no-brainer for even devout Catholics.  

It reminds me of one terrible pope from the Middle Ages, that was eventually tried and executed.  At the end of his long list of crimes - rape, sodomy, theft of church funds, etc - there was the charge of heresy, that he does not believe in God!  Well, comic as that may be, we do now have a similar situation.  The current pope clearly does not believe in Christianity.  That surely is a point that everyone can get on board with.

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