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It takes a nation to protect the nation

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The Pope is now part of the problem, and the enemy of freedom and European values.

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Has the Pope abandoned Europe to islam ?;

Where is the movement from Catholics to depose the tyrant tha has usurped their leadership? Are they all asleep?. Or are they believers in Papal Infallibility? Its ridiculous.
I wonder what Pope Frankenstein / Francis will say about this? Or not.

Muslim mob strips, beats & drags elderly woman through streets, torches Christian homes in Egypt
Pope Francis describes mass killing of Armenians under Ottoman rule as 'genocide'

Amazing! He must have finally grown a pair.

Yes. And if he was in Turkey he would have broken the law. Such is Turkey's need to silence the world about their historical crime. 

It would be funny seeing them put the Pope in prison.  Imagine the outcry from the West (not).  Imprison one Muslim and the Umma goes bonkers, imprison the Pope and you'd be lucky if Obama even mentioned it.

That's just the sort of thing a coward would say.  Pope Frankenstein is certainly not a man capable of being crucified on a cross.   Maybe that's why he doesn't believe in Jesus?

Pope Francis "defend the rights of refugees" ;

Pope & faeces eating - apparently the rest of humanity are wildly enthusiastic about it ! ;


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Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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