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Comment by Kinana on September 19, 2012 at 15:39 'imperfect'...Not according to the teachings of Islam. There is not one sentence, phrase, word or punctuation that is imperfectly placed or constructed. So you are displaying your non-Muslim prejudices!
As to the meaning(s) of the Quran…since there is no recognised authority in Islam (e.g. in Sunni Islam which has about 85% of all Muslims) each Muslim is his/her own Caliphate/Pope. Historically, unresolved conflicts of meaning have been resolved with the sword.
Comment by paul collings on September 19, 2012 at 14:29 Emm, yes another bit of islamic lunacy. Really they are passing off a book of inaccurate storys as a holy book. How could they call something imperfect, holy. Surely they insult Allah. I hope he kicks all their heads in for being so dumb.
I would say burn all the foriegn language non qur'ans, and get the imams to personnelly explain the meanings of the real book publicly to everyone. That way there can be no misunderstanding. Simples.
Comment by Kinana on September 19, 2012 at 12:32 Answer: No
Explanation: For Muslims all translations of the Quran are not translations they are only 're-tellings', because nothing can do justice to the classical Arabic in which the Quran was told to Mohammed and whose followers eventually wrote down. So the translated Qurans are not real Qurans and therefore not real 'Holy' books; they are only aids to help non-Arabic readers to get closer to the Islamic truth which is only found in the Arabic Quran and classical Arabic at that!
Comment by paul collings on September 19, 2012 at 11:01
I have a question which can be answered yes or no if anyone wants, but i would prefer an explaination.
The Qur'an is written in Arabic, as are the hadiths. To understand islam properly you need to be able to read and understand Arabic.
All the Qur'ans that have been written in other languages, which we keep being told don't really explain the word of mohhamhead, and unless we can read Arabic we will understand them,(unless we have them explained by a trained imam) arn't these Qur'ans blasphemous.
If the word of Allah is misunderstood or written in such a way as to cause confusion, wouldn't that make all foriegn language Qur'ans false holy books? Shouldn't they all be burnt?
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Comment by Kinana on August 11, 2012 at 23:59 Mo Farah, i.e. Mohamed Farah, born in Somalia, is the two time Olympic winner of the 10000 and 5000 metre race. For some reason his full name ‘Mohammed’ was never mentioned on the BBC, that I heard anyway.
‘In an interview with Emel magazine, he said: “You've got to believe in God. Everything happens for a reason, so you shouldn't get wound up. I think the way I am, the way I'm chilled out, has a lot to do with being Muslim and having faith.
”It also says in the Qur'an that you must work hard in whatever you do, so I work hard in training and that's got a lot to do with being successful. It's doesn't just come overnight, you've got to train for it and believe in yourself; that's the most important thing.“
…Abdi Kadir Ahmed, a Somali community worker in Camden, north London, said: "Mo Farah is incredibly important to Somalis in Britain. He shows what we can do, that we are integrating into British society and can achieve great things. It sends a very strong message to our youth that they don't have to be in the headlines because of crime or low achievement. It is a twisted image already and Mo helps us to counter that."
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/olympics/news/mo-farah-seeks-a-p...
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Comment by Kinana on June 23, 2012 at 13:57 'I have reviewed and criticized Irshad Manji's work before. Although she never says so explicitly in her book, I get the impression that Manji largely agrees with the mantra that "Islam is whatever Muslims make of it." I don't share this view. Why do those who behead Buddhist teachers in Thailand, burn churches in Nigeria, persecute Hindus in Pakistan or blow bombs in the London subway always "misunderstand" Islamic texts? Why don't they feel this urge to kill people after reading about, say, Winnie the Pooh?'
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Comment by Kinana on April 26, 2012 at 11:39 thanks to Dajjal for this info
Comment by Dajjal
Change happens! Web site changes break old links and new resources are discovered. USC-MSA, now called CMJE, made changes which broke old links. The URLGenerater utility has been updated and a new alternative site added.
tafsir.com went down and stayed down. The UrlGenerator now links to Islam-Universe instead. You can't find it with Google, use Bing to search for it or go to http://www.crusadersarmory.co.cc/ and open the Resources for Bloggers page to find it.
Sunan Ibn Maja & Sunan an-Nisa'i are early compilations of Islamic law. They are five volume sets, the Jihad info is in Vol. 4.
http://www.kalamullah.com/ibn-majah.html
http://www.kalamullah.com/sunan-an-nasai.html
Ibn Sa'd's collection is another old one with some interesting stuff. This site belongs to a Dutch Muslim. Google Translate handles it quite well and most of the ahadith are in English. http://www.soebratie.nl/religie/hadith/IbnSad.html
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