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Kuffarphobia in Turkey

Türk Hıristiyan ülke olarak ayrımcılık acı küçülen topluluk için laiklik den fişleri

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Comment by Antony on August 9, 2018 at 9:05
Comment by Philip Smeeton on March 26, 2018 at 15:44

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/936954/World-War-3-Turkey-Erdo...
World War 3: Turkey's Erdogan calls for 'ARMY of Islam' to ATTACK Israel on all sides.
He has also repeatedly threatened to invade Greek islands in the Mediterranean and has recently invaded Syria under the pretext of fighting Kurdish terrorism.
Why is Turkey still a member of NATO?

Comment by Antony on March 24, 2018 at 11:53

Turkey's victories and diplomacy ; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s2u8kR_wDo

Comment by Philip Smeeton on March 9, 2018 at 15:36

The Kurdish freedom fighters are mostly commies, but....
Every folk should have a homeland. Apparently Saladin was a Kurd.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saladin
"Ṣalāḥ ad-Dīn Yūsuf ibn Ayyūb mest kjent som Saladin var en muslimsk politisk og militær leder av kurdisk opprinnelse som grunnla Ayyubide-dynastiet."

Comment by Alan Lake on March 9, 2018 at 12:19

This is what happens when an Islamic gang has taken over an entire country: they can propagandize the rest of the world with their favored narrative.  Of course, you'll never see the secular democrats doing that - they're too busy flattering themselves on their 'unbiased' state messages. 

I saw this, not thru browsing videos, but because it appeared as a paid ad before the video I'd selected.  It must be state funded, even if only indirectly.  To be honest, I'm jealous of this, why can't we do this as well?

Comment by Alan Lake on February 20, 2018 at 0:44

That news is HUGE, yet none of the other media are covering it.

Comment by Antony on February 19, 2018 at 16:14
Comment by Antony on February 17, 2018 at 6:38

Turkey uses gas on Kurds - total silence from the Western media and politicians who made fake claims about Assad using gas ; https://www.rt.com/news/419060-turkey-afrin-kurds-toxic-gas/

Comment by Antony on February 12, 2018 at 7:01
Comment by Philip Smeeton on February 6, 2018 at 10:02

It should be obvious to the other Nato members that Turkey has no place in the organisation. Why are they not condemning Turkey?

 

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An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

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