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It takes a nation to protect the nation

I just found this excellent reference website.

http://byzantium.seashell.net.nz/articlemain.php?artmaincat=Timelin...

If you follow it thru you can get a feel for the rise of the Byzantine 'superpower', and its gradual fall, due to a variety of factors. It took 1100 years in Byzantium's case, but with the speed up brought by modern technology, we should expect the rise and fall of the West to be much shorter (unless it is able to learn the lesson from history and stop it).

You can also see how Islam came banging on the door of Constantinople over 800 years, and eventually broke in. And you can see the collapse of the Roman empire, relative to events in Byzantium.

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interesting timeline!

I found Henri Pirennes book "mohammad and Charlemagne" in an online version sometime ago in case you are interested in that thesis aswell.

In this book from 1937 the belgian historian puts what is now known as the "pirenne thesis" forward

According to Pirenne the real break in Roman history occurred in the 7th century as a result of Arab expansion. Islamic conquest of the area of today's south-eastern Turkey, Syria, Palestine, North Africa, Spain and Portugal ruptured economic ties to Europe, cutting the continent off from trade and turning it into a stagnant backwater, with wealth flowing out in the form of raw resources and nothing coming back. This began a steady decline and impoverishment so that by the time of Charlemagne Europe had become entirely agrarian at a subsistence level, with no long-distance trade. Pirenne says "Without Islam, the Frankish Empire would have probably never existed, and Charlemagne, without Muhammad, would be inconceivable".

here is a link
http://kitmantv.blogspot.com/2009/10/henri-pirenne-mohammed-and-cha...
Yes. All the liberal and appeaser kaffirs watching their 'tough' heroes in Hollywood movies don't seem to realise that we are the wimps and long term losers, and now is just a honeymoon period brought about by our superior technology. Muslim scholars understand though, and boast of defeating the Roman Empire. This following quote is from the Saudi Quran, printed under the authority of King Fahd Ibn Abdul Aziz Al-Saud (p1204).

"The Roman Empire itself began to shrink gradually, loosing its territory, not to Persia, but to the new Muslim Power which absorbed both the ancient Empires. This Power arose in its vigour to proclaim a new and purified creed to the whole world. Already in the last seven years of Heraclius's reign (635-642) several of the provinces nearest to Arabia had been annexed to the Muslim Empire. The Muslim Empire continued to spread on, in Asia Minor to the north and Egypt to the south. The Eastern Roman Empire became a mere shadow with a small bit of territory round its capital. Consantinople eventually surrendered to the Muslim arms in 1453. That was the real end of the Roman Empire."

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Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

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We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

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These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
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The government can import new voters - except where that changes the political demographics (i.e. electoral fraud by means of immigration)
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An additional Freedom from Religion is be deducible by equal application of law: "Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight - except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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