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Kuffarphobia in UK


Kuffarphobia in UK

For all those who are fighting to protect the 4 Freedoms in the UK

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English Defence League   (NB the authority for EDL statements is their website, not 4F)

Stop Islamisation Of Europe (SIOE) which is also on facebook

  • We emerge from the social fog of multiculturalism to see a landscape totally unrecognisable and more dangerous, like coming out of a bomb shelter and seeing the debris - Kinana
  • Unhealthy immigration happens - and they do nothing; integration fails - and they invent multiculturalism; multiculturalism breeds ethnic conflict - and they waste billions patching up a society that's falling apart. They never get to the root of the matter - Philip Smeeton
  • Always attributing incompetence to malice leads to paranoia.  Never attributing incompetence to malice leads to gullibility -Joe

Discussion Forum

Hate not Hope release another report

Started by Alan Lake 6 hours ago. 0 Replies

Why The UK Will Collapse

Started by Joe. Last reply by Antony Feb 3. 432 Replies

Is this the end of EDL

Started by Arthur. Last reply by Alan Lake Jan 27. 69 Replies

The State is your Enemy

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Dec 13, 2016. 6 Replies

Choudary, Anjem.

Started by Philip Smeeton. Last reply by Philip Smeeton Aug 23, 2016. 4 Replies

The EDL and the Fascist Experts

Started by Joe. Last reply by Kinana Jul 15, 2016. 59 Replies

Dear Bishop Cocksworth

Started by C J Bernard. Last reply by Alan Lake May 20, 2016. 4 Replies

Why have the white British left London?

Started by Joe. Last reply by Alan Lake May 17, 2016. 41 Replies

The Ideological Iceberg

Started by Joe. Last reply by paul collings Apr 21, 2016. 45 Replies


Started by Joe. Last reply by Gaia Apr 11, 2016. 22 Replies

Dear Mr Blair - A letter from the EDL

Started by C J Bernard. Last reply by paul collings Mar 29, 2016. 1 Reply

A Reply to an Open letter against the EDL

Started by C J Bernard. Last reply by C J Bernard Mar 18, 2016. 1 Reply

The LEP and the EDL

Started by C J Bernard Mar 18, 2016. 0 Replies

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Comment by Philip Smeeton on Sunday

By, Dr. Francis Pryor.

This is the most disgusting historical documentary I have every seen.

-The argument is that the English do not exist, have never existed. We are people (britons) that have always been here and “peacefully” absorbed new cultures that have enriched us with their diversity. The Anglo-Saxon invasion is a myth and never happened. A diversity nutter and various university academics have “irrefutable evidence” . A BBC/ Channel  Four product by “A Diverse Production” company, the overwhelming genetic and historical evidence for a violent invasion is rejected-

I almost vomited.

It is speculation and guesswork and wishful thinking.

Robin Cook MP contributing, and shots of modern “Britons” at the end, from Pakistan, Africa and the Middle-East, all just part of the natural process, the richness and vibrance that makes us true brits. Tea and Curry.

My worst enemies are those I thought were my countrymen, they have rewritten history and sacrificed the English on the alter of the myth of multiculturalism. Identity is despised.

It is bad science because the conclusion of the research was a given, thus counter-evidence ignored or downplayed. The Saxons may have taken over thriving farms and enslaved some of the locals, but the main evidence is that the Celtic population was mostly replaced, and there are accounts of large scale slaughter. Most artifacts and human remains simply disappear, only a tiny fraction survives.

The immigration that is happening in Britain now is not gradual and easily absorbed. 

My conclusion after a lifetime of interest in the subject is that the Anglo-Saxon invasion was sudden, (a period of about one hundred years), and violent and destroyed the Celtic culture in what became England.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on February 11, 2017 at 11:43

Now there's a lovely thought Danny, refugee camps in Muslim countries full of Merkelites and Democrats.

Comment by Danny Jeffrey on February 11, 2017 at 0:32

I think that every Muslim should be returned to their native land with a Muslim loving Brit under each arm.

Comment by Antony on February 10, 2017 at 9:46

Black Pigeon & Vee on UK immigration,transexualism etc ;

Comment by Philip Smeeton on February 5, 2017 at 9:19

Thousands Protest In London Against Trump’s Refugee Ban

Brexit was all about Brits being fed up with open borders immigration. Refugees and asylum-seekers that are not returned to their homelands and are given citizenship are also (illegitimate) immigrants. Children born in America to foreign parents should not be automatically given citizenship, they are citizens of their parent’s homeland.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on February 3, 2017 at 17:17

I find a connection between these two stories. We let millions of Muslims into Britain and are paying a high price for it. A high profile American mother with young girls is demanding that millions of Muslims are let into her country.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on February 2, 2017 at 8:52

"President Trump is reportedly toying with deporting immigrants on public assistance."

I think that I am in love with Donald Trump.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on February 1, 2017 at 9:01

The scientific proof that multiculturalism and integration do not work.

Even small intolerances in a multi-ethnic group. left to its own devises, results in voluntary segregation, where each sub-group naturally sorts itself into distinct ethnic areas. (ghettos, enclaves, neighborhoods).

No matter how much socialist wishful-thinkers desire and work for and make laws to enforce integration, human nature just does not allow it. The majority always ends up preferring their own kind and their own comfort zone.

Thomas C. Schelling’s Segregation Model.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on January 30, 2017 at 10:39

Most of the comments in The Independent are anti-Trump and defend British muslims. Do the majority of Brits really not understand what is happening in Britain and the deadly threat that is rapidly growing in the heart of British cities?

The majority in Parliament is pro-EU. Something is rotten in the state of Britain.

something is rotten in the state of Denmark

  1. Something is not right, rife with errors from top to bottom, leading to suspicion of motive.If the authorities knew about the problems and chose not to prevent them, then clearly something is rotten in the state of Denmark.
  2. Something is rotten in the state of Denmark.”
  3. Hamlet (1.4), Marcellus to Horatio 
    This line spoken by Marcellus (and not Hamlet as is commonly believed) is one of the most recognizable lines in all of Shakespeare's works.

    Marcellus, shaken by the many recent disturbing events and no doubt angered (as is Hamlet) by Claudius's mismanagement of the body politic, astutely notes that Denmark is festering with moral and political corruption. Horatio replies "Heaven will direct it" (91), meaning heaven will guide the state of Denmark to health and stability.
Comment by Philip Smeeton on January 30, 2017 at 10:10

I would vote for the BNP or for anyone that promised to deport Muslims.


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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom of Movement
The government can import new voters - except where that changes the political demographics (i.e. electoral fraud by means of immigration)
4. SP Freedom from Over-spending
People should not be charged for government systems which they reject, and which give them no benefit. For example, the government cannot pass a debt burden across generations (25 years).
An additional Freedom from Religion is be deducible by equal application of law: "Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight - except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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