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How Gangsterism Beats Democracy and Civil Society

I'm starting this forum as a repository for bits and pieces of information on how gangsterism works, i.e. how gangsters can take over an ar…

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Future Predictions and Timeline

This forum is used to collect predictions for the future, and to track how accurate they are.  Please just add predictions as a post, and I…

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15 Guilty Men - Revisited

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guilty_Men Can you imagine any of our politicians or journalists anonymously writing chapters to a book like t…

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Hate not Hope release another report

This report from their "Counter Jihad monitoring unit" is titled: Going Mainstream The mainstreaming of anti-Muslim prejudice in Europe and…

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Lutfur Rahman and Tower Hamlets Corruption - collected articles

The London Mayoral election is at serious risk of being stolen [Please note that there is additional information in the now closed forum:  …

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64 Feb 5
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Why The UK Will Collapse

I have failed so many times to explain this to people (although I think Paul and Alan have the same view that I do).  By accident I came ac…

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Is this the end of EDL

I'm gobsmacked by this news, how could Tommy and Kev do this to us, many feel that we have been dumped, discarded, served our purpose and n…

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69 Jan 27
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The Persecution of Tommy Robinson - collected articles

I'm not sure of the actual date of this.  I think it might be a year old. It doesn't contain all the recent politically-motivated trials ag…

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72 Jan 7
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The State is your Enemy

Every so often, a piece of news comes up that shows clearly that you cannot depend on the state to protect you, or to defend you if attacke…

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6 Dec 13, 2016
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The EU requires that its trading partners accept the institution of slavery

I was puzzling over the many statements from the EU regarding the Brexit negotiations, that there can be no free trade agreement without th…

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0 Aug 26, 2016

Choudary, Anjem.

http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/08/19/anjem-choudary-and-the-criminalization-of-dissent-britain-isis/ Simon Cottee here defends Choudary, por…

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4 Aug 23, 2016
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The EDL and the Fascist Experts

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9914500/Managers-and-skilled-workers-make-up-bulk-of-far-right-supporters.html Managers and skille…

Started by Joe

59 Jul 15, 2016
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The Economist on Brexit: Britain sailing into a storm

This topic is not particularly about the 4 freedoms, but having written a comment on this article for a friend, I thought I should share it…

Started by Alan Lake

27 Jul 6, 2016
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Muslim Terrorism Count

Thousands of Deadly Islamic Terror Attacks Since 9/11

Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom of Movement
The government can import new voters - except where that changes the political demographics (i.e. electoral fraud by means of immigration)
4. SP Freedom from Over-spending
People should not be charged for government systems which they reject, and which give them no benefit. For example, the government cannot pass a debt burden across generations (25 years).
An additional Freedom from Religion is be deducible by equal application of law: "Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight - except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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