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It takes a nation to protect the nation

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"I've uploaded the full video in case the BBC pull it "

SP replied Apr 6, 2011 to "Why my Brother become an extreme Islamist?"

22 Apr 29, 2014
Reply by Philip Smeeton

"Apologies. I meant Barnsley. Long day and late night. I've edited the location on yo…"

SP replied Mar 10, 2011 to Lib-Dem Loser Claims Barnsley is a Racist and Homophobic Town

2 Mar 10, 2011
Reply by Antony

"Hi Alan, thanks for the tip. I've edited my post. Off to the gym now...honest! : )"

SP replied Feb 15, 2011 to Channel 4 Dispatches - Lessons in Hate and Violence

3 Feb 18, 2011
Reply by John Sobieski

"Today's edition of Luton on Sunday: 'We can reveal that the march may start in the H…"

SP replied Jan 30, 2011 to EDL Leader Attacked in Luton

8 Jan 30, 2011
Reply by sarah

"Luton Police are without doubt complicit with certain members of the local Muslim co…"

SP replied Jan 30, 2011 to EDL Leader Attacked in Luton

8 Jan 30, 2011
Reply by sarah

"I can't embed the video. I'm getting the following message We're Sorry There was…"

SP replied Jan 21, 2011 to Tommy Robinson on Canadian Radio 21st Jan 2011

2 Jan 22, 2011
Reply by Alan Lake

"Excellent points Alan. We could also call certain newspapers 'The Peado Supporting (…"

SP replied Jan 4, 2011 to Tango, Romeo, Foxtrot NUJ Red...We Wont Leave You In The Dark As You Were LEFT Before.

13 Jan 5, 2011
Reply by SP

"Sickening. Less overtly, the Copts are receiving similar treatment in Egypt."

SP replied Jan 4, 2011 to Non-Muslims Burned Alive & Breasts Cut off - by Sudanese Islamists

5 Jan 4, 2011
Reply by Alan Lake

"..and of course, the fascist UAF will always be in their corner too, no matter what.…"

SP replied Dec 14, 2010 to Who Will Teach Tolerance to the Muslims?

3 Dec 19, 2010
Reply by OldWarDog

"Regarding the "other men" in Luton. I was there when the police had to draw their ba…"

SP replied Jul 27, 2010 to Threaten as much violence and mayhem as you want, as long as its in self defence

15 Jul 30, 2010
Reply by Tha Grenadier


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Muslim Terrorism Count

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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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