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It takes a nation to protect the nation

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Keep Calm, but we can’t carry on like this

Banner at the London demo 24 June 2017 [This is the basis of the speech given by the London Division at the EDL London demo on 24 June 2017…

Started by C J Bernard

0 Jul 3

EDL statement on the Islamic attack at London Bridge – Saturday 3 June 2017

June 4, 2017 Last night “soldiers of Allah” once again attacked innocent people, killing at least seven and seriously injuring others who…

Started by C J Bernard

1 Jun 29
Reply by Antony

EDL statement on the attack at Manchester Arena: A plea for change

May 23, 2017 Yesterday we were among the few who remembered the fourth anniversary of the Islamic murder of Fusilier Lee Rigby in Woolwich…

Started by C J Bernard

0 May 29

"Three Girls" - whatever you do, don’t mention the ‘M’ word …

If you wanted to write a drama about child grooming, where would you choose? According to Rotherham Labour MP Sarah Chapman, there may hav…

Started by C J Bernard

10 May 19
Reply by Antony

Free Speech Under Attack Again

Ian Crossland, Birmingham demo, 8 April 2017 ----------------------------------------- On 16 April, the ECHO published an article about our…

Started by C J Bernard

0 Apr 23

A side event at the EDL’s demo in Birmingham, 8 April

Background to the English Defence League demonstration in Birmingham The English Defence League was invited to Birmingham by its West Midl…

Started by C J Bernard

0 Apr 23

The EDL and the Fascist Experts Managers and skille…

Started by Joe

59 Jul 15, 2016
Reply by Kinana

The Violence of the West Midlands Police against the EDL in Coventry

The West Midlands Police win the award for crass, unprovoked, heavy-handed, disrespect and especially violent actions against the English…

Started by C J Bernard

1 Jun 2, 2016
Reply by C J Bernard

The EDL and the BBC

The propaganda crimes of the BBC are legion   1. Intro 2. The actual complaint we sent 3. The BBC response 4. Our response -- Intro Below…

Started by C J Bernard

3 Mar 18, 2016
Reply by Joe

International Demonstrations against Islam

The anti-Islam movement will demonstrate worldwide solidarity on 10 October. The English Defence League will be participating along with si…

Started by Kinana

4 Oct 5, 2015
Reply by Kinana


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Muslim Terrorism Count

Thousands of Deadly Islamic Terror Attacks Since 9/11

Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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