The 4 Freedoms Library

It takes a nation to protect the nation

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Racist Attacks on White People

Some years after adding this discussion, I found an article from 1999, about a report from The Commission for Racial Equality, stating that…

Started by Joe

116 Jun 26, 2022
Reply by Kinana

The Economist on Brexit: Britain sailing into a storm

This topic is not particularly about the 4 freedoms, but having written a comment on this article for a friend, I thought I should share it…

Started by Alan Lake

29 Sep 19, 2018
Reply by Joe

A snapshot of the UK on 25 Feb 2016

Flicking thru the Metro on this day, I came across these two stories, which I've also added as comments.

Started by Alan Lake

2 Mar 7, 2016
Reply by Alan Lake

Cameron's Dilemma on Gay Rights

A Very Civil Compromise Thu 15 Nov 2012: Marriage A La Mode - Hogarth   Perhaps the greatest politician of our generation, Bill Clin…

Started by Alan Lake

1 Nov 17, 2012
Reply by Joe

Sheikh Omar Bakri Helps Wafa Sultan Educate All Americans on Islam Sheikh Bakri Helps Wafa Sultan…

Started by Alan Lake

1 May 23, 2012
Reply by Tony Ashworth

Tommy Robinson on Michael Coren Nov 7 2011

Started by Danny Jeffrey

26 Nov 16, 2011
Reply by Danny Jeffrey

A Communist leader, speaking on an Islamic TV station, talking sense to the West!

Video can't be embedded, so here's the link. Some of the more remarkable statements from Jin Liqun: Societies (like Europe) must learn to…

Started by Alan Lake

4 Nov 7, 2011
Reply by Steve Charls

What is wrong with this police report on fatal attack in Bexley?

Bexley fatal attack: Victim was celebrating birthday Paul Gunner was attacked on his birthday as he stood outside a kebab shop A man out ce…

Started by Alan Lake

8 Oct 19, 2011
Reply by Jack Rainbow

Saudi Arabia: Morals police arrest Colombian soccer player for having tattoo of Jesus on his arm

Saudi Arabia: Morals police arrest Colombian soccer player for having tattoo of Jesus on his arm Pino: Immoral In Muslim countries, non-Mu…

Started by Alan Lake

3 Oct 16, 2011
Reply by Danny Jeffrey

Danish TV programme on EDL & up-coming Tower Hamlets demo

Started by Joe

4 Sep 2, 2011
Reply by Joe


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Muslim Terrorism Count

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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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