All Discussions Tagged 'your' - The 4 Freedoms Library2024-03-28T12:15:00Zhttp://4freedoms.com/group/uk/forum/topic/listForTag?tag=your&feed=yes&xn_auth=noThe State is your Enemytag:4freedoms.com,2016-08-23:3766518:Topic:1822982016-08-23T20:45:35.401ZAlan Lakehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/AlanLake
<p>Every so often, a piece of news comes up that shows clearly that you cannot depend on the state to protect you, or to defend you if attacked, or even to leave you alone. So obviously we have the example of Tommy Robinson, that the state is trying to destroy, because he is not keeping to their defined narrative.</p>
<p>But there are other news items that show which way the chips lie, where totally innocent people in the UK experience violent, criminal or terrorist incidents, their lives are…</p>
<p>Every so often, a piece of news comes up that shows clearly that you cannot depend on the state to protect you, or to defend you if attacked, or even to leave you alone. So obviously we have the example of Tommy Robinson, that the state is trying to destroy, because he is not keeping to their defined narrative.</p>
<p>But there are other news items that show which way the chips lie, where totally innocent people in the UK experience violent, criminal or terrorist incidents, their lives are ruined, and we see no attempt by the state to take on the causes in any serious way. We start off with this poor doctor - one of the more precious bulwarks of our society - not that it did her any good.<br/> _________________________________________________________________________________________</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/hero-london-77-bombings-doctor-8689918#rlabs=1%20rt">http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/hero-london-77-bombings-doctor-8689918#rlabs=1%20rt</a>$category%20p$10<br/> <br/> What is the real story here?<br/> <br/> Hero London 7/7 bombings doctor killed in fire caused by cigarette thrown into plastic bag<br/> 16:05, 23 AUG 2016 UPDATED 16:05, 23 AUG 2016<br/> BY SCOTT CAMPBELL<br/> Claire Sheppey was one of the first to respond to the devastating terror attack 11 years ago which stunned the world<br/> <br/> So after dealing with all the mayhem and mangled bodies caused by that Islamic attack, was she perhaps finding it difficult to find peace in her soul?<br/> <br/> Fumes seeped into Dr Sheppey's bedroom and she died of carbon monoxide poisoning after being rushed to Royal London Hospital in Whitechapel.<br/> It was the hospital where she battled to save dozens of terribly-injured and shell-shocked victims after Islamic terrorists killed 52 people in an onslaught on Tube trains and a bus on July 7, 2005.<br/> <br/> Dr Sheppey, who wasn't burned at all, was found slumped in her bedroom by firefighters.<br/> She had 193 milligrams of alcohol per 100 millitres of blood, the hearing was told.<br/> The drink-drive limit is 80mgs of alcohol per 100mls of blood.<br/> <br/> I think Dr. Sheppey was another victim of that Muslim 7/7 attrocity.<br/> <br/> In the same way, many of our ex-servicemen sleeping rough because they can't fit in, or committing suicide because of PTSD, are victims of the governments politically correct way of fighting Islam by going to another country to address the problem, because they can't face the issues over here.</p> NO Platform! CHUU! CHUU!tag:4freedoms.com,2012-05-09:3766518:Topic:1010652012-05-09T05:21:29.045ZAlan Lakehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/AlanLake
<p>This forum is a template for criticising the Far Left. It was triggered by the recent Golliwog Cake incident in Sweden, so I will follow it with successive additions of the screams from the Leftist extremists. <br></br> <a href="http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/04/the-brilliance-of-swedens-shocking-golliwog-cake/256168/">http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/04/the-brilliance-of-swedens-shocking-golliwog-cake/256168/…</a></p>
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<p>This forum is a template for criticising the Far Left. It was triggered by the recent Golliwog Cake incident in Sweden, so I will follow it with successive additions of the screams from the Leftist extremists. <br/> <a href="http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/04/the-brilliance-of-swedens-shocking-golliwog-cake/256168/">http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/04/the-brilliance-of-swedens-shocking-golliwog-cake/256168/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/04/the-brilliance-of-swedens-shocking-golliwog-cake/256168/#comment-505554980">http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/04/the-brilliance-of-swedens-shocking-golliwog-cake/256168/#comment-505554980</a></p>
<p>First, here is my initial criticism of the Leftist mindset.<a href="http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/04/the-brilliance-of-swedens-shocking-golliwog-cake/256168/"></a></p>
<p>_________________________________________________________________________________</p>
<p>This incident is a perfect summary of the moral bankruptcy of the Far Left. Their defects are expressed in the acronym CHUU, standing for:</p>
<ul>
<li>Cowardly</li>
<li>Herd Mentality</li>
<li>Utopianist</li>
<li>Unprincipled</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>COWARDLY</strong><br/> FGM isn't just an African problem, its more precisely an Islamic problem. All discussion of FGM at the UN HRC was forbidden by the Egyptian delegate, even though the highest imam of Egypt supports it. Furthermore, FGM is more closely correlated to Islamic sub-populations than it is to all Africa:<br/> "It is also reported that FGM is practised among Muslim populations in parts of Malaysia, Pakistan, Indonesia and the Philippines." (see attached doc from the Metropolitan police).</p>
<p>The participants at this event are too cowardly to confront the problem head on in realistic terms, they just want to dance around it while polishing their halos.</p>
<p><strong>HERD MENTALITY / WITCH HUNT</strong><br/> Just as in previous times, when a village was afflicted with a natural disaster like drought or crop failure the mob would hunt for a solitary old witch to burn, the modern leftist mob hunts for sacrificial victims to avoid having to look at the real reasons for its social failures. More generally, the average leftist is just a sheep that wants to fit in with the herd and not deviate from the current fashionable narrative. Group think is safest, and it also saves all that pesky and boring time studying the relevant ideas - like reading the Quran/Sirah/Hadith or understanding the Elevator pitch in the right hand column of every page of 4F.</p>
<p>Note how all the participants in this ideological train crash are grinning like pumpkins, as RamZPaul points out. They are happy because they think that as long as they are with their own crowd of lemmings, they are on safe (ideological) ground. How wrong they are. But that collectivist mindset will always appeal to feeble minded types.</p>
<p>The participants at this event need to understand that life is not all about eating cake with friends, and that difficult problems require difficult and unpopular corrections, that you may have to pursue on your own, against the tide of public opinion.</p>
<p><strong>UTOPIANIST</strong><br/> These leftists do not understand the lesson and metaphor of the Garden of Eden. Experiments with very young children have shown that the more intelligent ones are more inclined to cheat and deceive than the others. That is why the apple of intelligence metaphorically implanted the seed of evil into man, and he was thenceforth banished from the Eden paradise (of simplistic innocence and trust), and forced to wander in a hostile and cruel world outside. Every person is not fundamentally good but just suffering from mistreatment in childhood or something, and even if it were physically possible to be absolutely nice and forgiving to every single human on the planet, there would still be a large percentage inclined to go out and lie, cheat, steal and commit violence.</p>
<p>The participants at this event believe that by being nice to Muslims, avoiding confrontational language and targeting them with cake centred events, they will somehow magically stop performing FGM. Its not going to happen. Strong, punitive measures need to be enforced in Western states to stop this practice. The Islamic log jam at the UN needs to be unblocked, and discussion on this topic must be allowed again.</p>
<p><b>UNPRINCIPLED</b><strong>: USE OF EXPEDIENCY OVER PRINCIPLE</strong><br/> The Leftist makes decisions based on expediency as opposed to principle. This means that in a choice between two paths, the one will be taken which offers the most voter support or which gives the least short term discomfort. Blair was the master of this kind of action by expediency with, it seems, ministerial decisions being taken on the basis of the latest UK poll - and look where that lead him!</p>
<p>A lifetime of making decisions on expediency leads to a morally bankrupt mindset, which is unable to react from instinct in a situation like this, so is easily made to look like a fool. To constantly fudge your principles and just sway like a reed in the wind with whatever fits at the time, is a form of intellectual dishonesty which leads to a deep moral rot.</p>
<p id="aeaoofnhgocdbnbeljkmbjdmhbcokfdb-mousedown">On the other hand, if you mostly make your decisions based on principle, then your decision making and instincts get stronger by the year. Its a painful path, because you will sometimes be running against the fashionable narrative and get criticism and hostility as a result, but it is a better path. For this reason, Musashi gave as the first of his 9 principles of learning the Way of Strategy as: "Do not think dishonestly". You need to decide your principles, then live your life by them come hell or high water, and in that way, your spirit will become stronger year by year.</p>
<p>As the old homily says: "The road to hell is paved with good intentions". The Leftists end up in this moral rot for a perfectly good reason - it is extremely hard to remove contradiction from the various competing ideas in your mindset! So, we all want to be nice to all people, including all Muslims, but we can't all be nice to the Islamists, or, as Popper said, tolerance of the intolerant will lead to a totally intolerant society. So the Leftists try be tolerant to the misogynistic, homophobic, anti-Semitic, apostate killing Islamists, and wonder why things are not working out.</p>
<p>The participants at this event need to understand that if you constantly fudge your ideas when your principles seem to be clashing with each other, you will eventually lose your moral compass.<br/> ...<br/> Respect to the artist, Makode Aj Linde - this installation has a touch of genius about it.</p> The BBC - Lying Again: complicit in your submission to the coming Islamic UKtag:4freedoms.com,2011-07-03:3766518:Topic:596842011-07-03T02:13:24.329ZAlan Lakehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/AlanLake
<p>This is a jolly little video. Look how this bomb disposal expert survives the blast. Isn't it amazing! He lived thanks to his body armour, (but lets not mention all the people without that benefit that died before him).</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-14002457">http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-14002457</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p>Of course, they've no idea what political reasons are behind this - except to mention that the election was a few days ago so…</p>
<p>This is a jolly little video. Look how this bomb disposal expert survives the blast. Isn't it amazing! He lived thanks to his body armour, (but lets not mention all the people without that benefit that died before him).</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-14002457">http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-14002457</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p>Of course, they've no idea what political reasons are behind this - except to mention that the election was a few days ago so trick the viewer into thinking its part of the red shirts - yellow shirts dispute.</p>
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<p>But try do a google search on "thailand narathiwat islamic terrorism" and see what you get. The death toll topped 1700 by Sept 2006 alone:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1698332/posts">http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1698332/posts</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p>It rose to 3,500 by Sept 2010:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.chakranews.com/islamic-terrorists-kill-4-buddhists-set-homes-on-fire-in-thailand/907">http://www.chakranews.com/islamic-terrorists-kill-4-buddhists-set-homes-on-fire-in-thailand/907</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p>There's a whole stinking ecosystem of Islamic terror groups in those 3 Southern Thai provinces, but we can't possibly expect the BBC to inform us of any of it, can we?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/war/thailand2.htm">http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/war/thailand2.htm</a></p>
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<p>I suspect the BBC will only start to wake up, when they start being blown up.</p> This pimp leader is still walking the streets, looking for your daughtertag:4freedoms.com,2010-08-07:3766518:Topic:267322010-08-07T01:33:34.000ZAlan Lakehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/AlanLake
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<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; min-height: 1px; font-weight: bold;"><font style="font-size: 1.1em;">This week a girl who was abducted at the age of 14 and forced to work as a sex slave gave evidence in court that helped convict the nine men who sexually abused her. In this article, Sue Reid reveals how charities are helping those victims of this terrible abuse and importantly, why they are pushing the state to not hold back in their quest to find and convict the grotesque individuals.</font></p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; min-height: 1px;">At 13, Emma still played with dolls and loved nothing more than walking with her pet spaniel, Mollie, through the fields next to her home on the outskirts of Leeds.<br/></p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; min-height: 1px;">Her blonde hair was cut in a little girl’s bob and she had never kissed a boy. <br/></p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; min-height: 1px;">The highlight of her week was Saturday, when she would meet friends at the local shopping centre while her middle-class parents, Jack and Carol, went to Tesco.<br/></p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; min-height: 1px;">Yet by her 14th birthday, that innocent childhood was over. <br/></p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; min-height: 1px;">Emma had been raped and sexually abused in the most grotesque manner by 54 men from all over Britain.<br/></p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; min-height: 1px;">‘It feels as if one minute I was playing with dolls, the next I was a sex slave,’ she told me this week. <br/></p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; min-height: 1px;">‘I was wearing my favourite candy-striped ankle socks when I was first raped. Afterwards, my white coat was covered in blood.’<br/></p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; min-height: 1px;">Emma remembers every detail. Two of those ‘friends’ in the shopping<br/>mall were teenage boys, Niv and Jay, who were being used by a criminal gang to lure naive local girls into an underage sex ring.<br/></p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; min-height: 1px;">They introduced Emma to older relatives, in their 20s and 30s, who said they wanted to be her friends, too. They plied her with vodka, cigarettes and cannabis spliffs.<br/></p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; min-height: 1px;">‘I thought I was having a great time. I had no idea the men were part of a gang,’ she says now. <br/></p>
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Whilst following up something on the Troxy issue, I came across the posting below. I just have to share it with you guys for its entertainment value. When these fascist supporters finally break free from their naivete and fabricated mythology, their shock is going to be pretty brutal.<div><br></br><ul>
<li><i>they sort of make you feel unwelcome cause they don't trust anyone"</i> - hate to tell you my friend, but its not because they don't trust anyone, its because they don't trust you, because…</li>
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Whilst following up something on the Troxy issue, I came across the posting below. I just have to share it with you guys for its entertainment value. When these fascist supporters finally break free from their naivete and fabricated mythology, their shock is going to be pretty brutal.<div><br/><ul>
<li><i>they sort of make you feel unwelcome cause they don't trust anyone"</i> - hate to tell you my friend, but its not because they don't trust anyone, its because they don't trust you, because their scriptures tell them to, because you are a stupid kuffar, a pig and a dog, and not to be taken as friend or protector. Anyway, thank heavens for small mercies. I expected the next line to be blaming EDL for the Muslim attitude on the grounds that if it wasn't for EDL those Muslim demonstraters would have trusted him!</li>
<li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; font-size: small;"><i>"</i></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; font-size: small;"><i>didn't get the idea of "solidarity" with other groups.</i>" - but they get it far better than you my child. They understand the binding value of the Haj, the daily prayer, the yearly Ramadan, the death for apostates. All this gives them a solidarity that you can only dream of, and that you will always be excluded from</span></li>
<li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; font-size: small;"><i>"</i></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; font-size: small;"><i>we're part of the local community"</i> - this is the funniest and saddest part of all. His concept of a 'community' based on geographical boundaries and shared interests is pure myth in the Islamic mindset. Can this person read? Does he not know what happens to Kuffar in every other Islamic 'community' in every other country - Turkey, Egypt, Nigeria, Saudi Arabia - I'm too bored to even continue with the list. Of course he doesn't know, because the instant he reads about Islamic persecution, his trusty censorship portcullis comes down to remove any facts which may conflict with his world view. But we don't need to worry about this chappie. Once Islam has control over the area, he will be ethnically cleansed from it, by the usual mixture of explicit and implicit intimidation, just like in all those other places he refuses to read about.</span></li>
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<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 16px; font-size: small;">Well, perhaps I am being a little unkind (I have been brutalised by Islamic Terror after all). He's just going thru the same conflict I went thru starting over a year ago: </span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 16px; font-size: small;"><i>How do you reconcile the fact that the Muslim in front of you is a perfectly nice, gently human being that you would like to have as your friend, with knowledge of the belief set he is bound to, and his inability to change or deviate from it, even if he wanted to?</i></span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 16px; font-size: small;">Well, that's the beginning of a long and painful road, but I've a feeling he'll be forced down it pretty soon.</span></font></div>
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<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 16px; font-size: small;">For me now, all roads lead to the 10-Point Plan, which processes both these opposites. Once we have strictly re-drawn the line of secular democracy on the playground tarmac, you can then openly ask all your friends which side of the line they are going to be on, and it does not involve any embarrassing discussion of cultural ethnicity or religious beliefs.</span></font></div>
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<div class="content" id="aeaoofnhgocdbnbeljkmbjdmhbcokfdb-mousedown"><b><i>here's a good idea</i></b></div>
<div class="content" id="aeaoofnhgocdbnbeljkmbjdmhbcokfdb-mousedown"><i>When i was in harrow-on-the-hill at the anti-edl thing last year the local kids were quite jumpy at any non-muslim, "'kafir" who were present at the protest. <br/>annoying cause</i> <b><u><i>they sort of make you feel unwelcome</i></u></b> <i>cause they don't trust anyone. <br/><br/>a lot of those kids were new to "politics" and</i> <b><u><i>didn't get the idea of "solidarity" with other groups</i></u></b><i>. </i></div>
<div class="content" id="aeaoofnhgocdbnbeljkmbjdmhbcokfdb-mousedown"><i>anyway why don't WAG make up a load of flyers in Urdu/Arabic/Bengali to explain to the kids who we are as "antifascists" and that</i> <b><u><i>we're part of the local community</i></u></b> <i>and not outsiders, also why not get some local Bengali speakers on the megaphones, even better get some east london grime mcs out on the streets.</i></div>
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