It takes a nation to protect the nation
I'm gobsmacked by this news, how could Tommy and Kev do this to us, many feel that we have been dumped, discarded, served our purpose and not given even a small amount of warning that they were going to do this.
The Bradford demo, people will have booked hotels, trains, buses and now will be out of pocket, our forum, no one knows what will happen to that, all up in the air, so to speak.
There are many questions and no answers.
I cannot really imagine the pressures they have experienced since the start of the EDL. I am grateful for their crucial founding role in this movement.
But to answer your headline question: No it is not the end of the EDL. Too many people are committed to this movement and cause beyond their relationship with these two fine men.
But there are many questions and I trust the answers will be forthcoming, hopefully directly from Tommy and Kevin instead of via the media.
Can anyone explain what this is about? Have they cancelled the Bradford demo or more than that?
That doesn't really help. I can only guess. Has the EDL cancelled the demo because of the possibility of a massive backlash and/or violence at the demo?.... I've just looked at the EDL website at it thinks it's still going ahead.
... Oh. Now I know.
Thanks Kinana, there is a lot of confusion at the mo and I hope things will became clearer soon.
This is not the end of the EDL - there are plenty of decent people at grassroots level who can come to the fore, yes, you can bet neo-fascist parasites & fraudsters such as NF,BNP, Britain First etc will be trying to make their move in a rule or ruin exercise... but ordinary members can look sharp and see these moronic losers off.
Yes - there will have to be a re-evaluation of tactics, street demos can only accomplish so much, and if they are held in some remote car park fenced off from the public, I'd suggest they accomplish very little apart from a financial burden on members, so demos may very well become more sporadic, and with other forms of "agit-prop" (to use a left term) will be used more frequently.
IMO this is the end of EDL. For the leaders to leave, giving as their excuse that it is infiltrated with neo-nazis who they cannot control, means that no-one is going to be able to step into their shoes. No-one is going to believe that anyone who steps forward to lead EDL will be able to control "the nazi infiltrators".
The proper way to leave would have been to say "I have decided that organisation X. is the way forward for me". But this is a policy of slash and burn.
You can be sure that the establishment have been behind this. Destroy EDL on your way out.
I expect we will see British Breiviks appear. And muslim organisations will be delighted. Because they will be able to say "see, the terrorism is on both sides".
Sadly, Tommy has joined a muslim organisation. And not just a muslim organisation, but one that is useless. I am sure that for the last 3 years he has been under a strain that would have destroyed 99% of people. So, I don't blame him for stepping away from EDL.
I confirm that the Bradford demo is still on.
Surely Tommy doesn't believe that 'Mo' Ansar is a moderate Muslim. He is a slimy liar who says different things to different audiences. He is utterly repulsive and utterly Islamist. He is dancing around the media. Or at least he's controlling at least some in the media (the BBC, The Guardian, etc.). Perhaps that explains his constant smug smile... I am prepared to accept the Quilliam Foundation's moderation, but Mo Ansar's?????... Then again, this might have just been an inane photo-shoot for political purposes - on both sides.
Perhaps Tommy is playing the larger game of politics. And sometimes in politics you have to do stuff which many of your supporters won't agree with but which might - it just might! - have positive implications when it comes to fighting Islamism. In politics, that's the way it goes. That's why I couldn't really be a politicians or even completely support a political party. I couldn't keep my mouth shut or toe the party line on everything.
Why break the news here