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It takes a nation to protect the nation


I'm no expert but I sense the beginning of a civil war right here in mainland UK. I'm not promoting this, but to be honest I do forsee it. The police, the government, the establishment stand by and do nothing. What difference is peaceful protest from a few hundred guys like you and me likely to make? They brand us racist thugs. They call us fascist scum.

Are we on the brink of a civil war?

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Exactly!! 1,000 ain't gonna cut it. We need 100,000 minimum!! Where are we gonna get 100,000 from though??
we are on the brink.these radical leaders are already getting away with murder (literally),the only thing is,they get their 'brainwashed' pupils to carry out their murderous deeds (7/7 9/11 etc).
people like Choudary and Hamza wont do the dirty work,they are cowards in that respect but,they are the 'brains' behind these attrocities.
bring our troops home and put them to better use here, rounding up islam and deporting it back to the enemy lands it came from.

apart from choudray. he should hang.

Tim Pool hosts a discussion where they see people in the US calling for civil war.  I remember when I stumbled across 4F a decade ago, and ran away thinking "these people are insane" because there were discussions of civil war.  Back in 2009 that seemed like crazy talk (but it only took me 6 months to think "maybe this is a discussion we should be having").

Fast forward a decade, and a man who was outraged a few months ago that Tommy didn't allow Muslims opposed to democracy and free speech to speak at Tommy's protest against censorship -- is now discussing the possibility of civil war AND his example is liberal democrats vs beheading barbarian hordes. This is clearly about the threat from Islam.  And Tim Pool seems to have abandoned his deluded liberalism of a couple of months ago.

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Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

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These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
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Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
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An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

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