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Kuffarphobia in UK

For all those who are fighting to protect the 4 Freedoms in the UK

Search Site: http://4freedoms.ning.com/main/search/search?q=Zuk
Members: 243
Latest Activity: 6 hours ago

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Useful Websites

English Defence League   (NB the authority for EDL statements is their website, not 4F)

https://englishdefenceleague-forum.com/forum/
https://www.facebook.com/EnglishDefenceLeagueOFFICIAL/?fref=nf https://twitter.com/EDLofficialpage

http://englishdefenceleague.tumblr.com/

http://edlbackup.com/

www.christianlegalcentre.com

http://www.libertiesalliance.org

Stop Islamisation Of Europe (SIOE) which is also on facebook
http://www.strategicdialogue.org
http://warband.wordpress.com

  • We emerge from the social fog of multiculturalism to see a landscape totally unrecognisable and more dangerous, like coming out of a bomb shelter and seeing the debris - Kinana
  • Unhealthy immigration happens - and they do nothing; integration fails - and they invent multiculturalism; multiculturalism breeds ethnic conflict - and they waste billions patching up a society that's falling apart. They never get to the root of the matter - Philip Smeeton
  • Always attributing incompetence to malice leads to paranoia.  Never attributing incompetence to malice leads to gullibility -Joe

Discussion Forum

Free Speech Under Attack Again

Started by C J Bernard Apr 23. 0 Replies

Islam: The Religion of Peace Strikes Again

Started by C J Bernard. Last reply by Alan Lake Mar 26. 1 Reply

Why The UK Will Collapse

Started by Joe. Last reply by Antony Feb 3. 432 Replies

Is this the end of EDL

Started by Arthur. Last reply by Alan Lake Jan 27. 69 Replies

The State is your Enemy

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Dec 13, 2016. 6 Replies

Choudary, Anjem.

Started by Philip Smeeton. Last reply by Philip Smeeton Aug 23, 2016. 4 Replies

The EDL and the Fascist Experts

Started by Joe. Last reply by Kinana Jul 15, 2016. 59 Replies

Dear Bishop Cocksworth

Started by C J Bernard. Last reply by Alan Lake May 20, 2016. 4 Replies

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Comment by Antony on June 27, 2016 at 12:20

Soros,- EU collapse inevitable ; http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/683518/EU-collapse-Brexit-EU-re...

Lets make sure it is before our own establishment,the Eurocrats and banksters force/con the public into remaining.

Comment by Tony Ashworth on June 27, 2016 at 10:00
The days of fair politics has gone. We've all said it on here, none of them can be trusted. No use dreaming about what should of been. War is coming. Time to prepare.
Comment by Philip Smeeton on June 27, 2016 at 9:12

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/2-paragraphs-explain-whats-next-...

“The UK’s widely watched vote on Thursday — in which 52% of Britons voted to leave the EU — was an advisory referendum that won’t have an immediate effect and in theory could be ignored by UK lawmakers…”

“…So does yesterday’s result mean that the UK will soon be leaving the EU? Not exactly. For starters, the referendum is actually not legally binding. Only Parliament can pass the requisite legislation to leave the EU, and three-quarters of the Members of Parliament (MP) are on record as being personally opposed to Brexit….”

Now there is the devil in it all, our own politicians are our worst enemies. 

Everyone should be pushing for electoral reform, so that we can get the politics that we actually vote for into parliament and not just two and a half political ideologies to choose between. Real democracy needs multiple and viable political ideologies. Negotiated coalitions are actually more democratic than one party majorities, even though they are tiresome they crave hard work and skill from politicians. As it is now in Britain and America, once they are elected they can just coast along and do not have to do much, and more importantly they can ignore the will and wellbeing of the nation.

Comment by Antony on June 26, 2016 at 21:59
Comment by Philip Smeeton on June 26, 2016 at 17:35

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1339162/pro-eu-mps-in-secret-plot-to-...

“-490 of 650 MPs in the House of Commons who are pro-EU - many have privately warned they'll battle to stop the UK leaving the single market despite Thursday’s historic vote.”

So much for democracy. Those elected to serve the people are going to ignore the will of the people. The politicians have always only served their own personal interests but now they are going to break the law and commit the crime of treason. To put aside the result of a legitimate and binding referendum and sabotage and vote against the measures necessary to free Britain from EU domination.

Comment by Antony on June 26, 2016 at 16:01

Some humour to come out of the Brexit vote ! ; https://www.rt.com/business-projects/348345-richest-people-losses-b...

Comment by Philip Smeeton on June 26, 2016 at 14:35

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-36616028

There is no turning back from these results, the English voted decisively to leave the EU. 

Apparently the older, wiser, less indoctrinated and most patriotic won the day.

Comment by Antony on June 26, 2016 at 12:29
Comment by Heather Gilbert on June 26, 2016 at 12:22
Comment by Antony on June 26, 2016 at 12:08

To start our exit from the EU, the Prime Minister Cameron has to send an Article 50 letter - why has he not done so ?, instead coming out with drivel about it being sent off after an election at the Tory Party conference - sounds suspiciously like a stalling tactic to stymie the brxit.

 

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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom of Movement
The government can import new voters - except where that changes the political demographics (i.e. electoral fraud by means of immigration)
4. SP Freedom from Over-spending
People should not be charged for government systems which they reject, and which give them no benefit. For example, the government cannot pass a debt burden across generations (25 years).
An additional Freedom from Religion is be deducible by equal application of law: "Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight - except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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