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Kuffarphobia in UK


Kuffarphobia in UK

For all those who are fighting to protect the 4 Freedoms in the UK

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Useful Websites

English Defence League   (NB the authority for EDL statements is their website, not 4F)

Stop Islamisation Of Europe (SIOE) which is also on facebook

  • We emerge from the social fog of multiculturalism to see a landscape totally unrecognisable and more dangerous, like coming out of a bomb shelter and seeing the debris - Kinana
  • Unhealthy immigration happens - and they do nothing; integration fails - and they invent multiculturalism; multiculturalism breeds ethnic conflict - and they waste billions patching up a society that's falling apart. They never get to the root of the matter - Philip Smeeton
  • Always attributing incompetence to malice leads to paranoia.  Never attributing incompetence to malice leads to gullibility -Joe

Discussion Forum

Free Speech Under Attack Again

Started by C J Bernard Apr 23. 0 Replies

Islam: The Religion of Peace Strikes Again

Started by C J Bernard. Last reply by Alan Lake Mar 26. 1 Reply

Why The UK Will Collapse

Started by Joe. Last reply by Antony Feb 3. 432 Replies

Is this the end of EDL

Started by Arthur. Last reply by Alan Lake Jan 27. 69 Replies

The State is your Enemy

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Dec 13, 2016. 6 Replies

Choudary, Anjem.

Started by Philip Smeeton. Last reply by Philip Smeeton Aug 23, 2016. 4 Replies

The EDL and the Fascist Experts

Started by Joe. Last reply by Kinana Jul 15, 2016. 59 Replies

Dear Bishop Cocksworth

Started by C J Bernard. Last reply by Alan Lake May 20, 2016. 4 Replies

Why have the white British left London?

Started by Joe. Last reply by Alan Lake May 17, 2016. 41 Replies

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Comment by Philip Smeeton on March 23, 2017 at 17:46

We have to stop saying that Islam is a political ideology, because this is being used to defend Islam. That these terrorist attacks are politically and not religiously motivated, Thus Islam is not to blame. It has been perverted and abused and is really a wonderful religion. Don't blame the Muslims because they are members of the religion of peace, and just as much victims of the terrorism as we are.

How can the Prime Minister of Great Britain go out, the day after a disgusting terrorist attack inspired by the teachings of Mohammed and done in the name of Allah, and declare that Islam is not to blame?

Islam is solely to blame and everyone that calls themselves a Muslim is guilty of the crime. They are completely clear about and understand what is going on, they are lying to and deceiving us. Our leaders are also lying to and deceiving us, but unlike the Muslims they are also lying to and deceiving themselves.

When Muslims go out and denounce the violence it is a lie and they know it. That is politics and they are good at it.

The religion that they believe in legitimizes the killing and clearly specifies who has to die, every Muslim knows this.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on March 23, 2017 at 16:59

“The Prime Minister has said the “Islamist” attack on Parliament was not “Islamic” and Islam is a “great faith”.

Here we go again, we are ruled by babbling idiots. This attack has everything to do with Islam. Islam is to blame. Islam is a violent and discriminating religious ideology that incites to hatred and murder. Muslims are the ones carrying out all of these attacks against us, we just cannot have them living in our midst.

Theresa May insisted: “It is wrong to describe this as Islamic terrorism. It is Islamist terrorism. It is a perversion of a great faith.”

What the F is the difference between islamic and islamist?

“This act of terror was not an act of faith. It was a perversion; a warped ideology, which leads to an act of terrorism like that and it will not prevail.”

-Right, a perverted and warped ideology, a perfect description of Islam!

Khalid Mahmood, the Labour MP for Birmingham Perry Barr, said the attacker or attackers “pretend to be of a particular religion”.

“If they were of a religion they would not be carrying out acts like this,” he added.

-LIES, lies and more lies deliberate lies, not self-deception. He knows very well what is going on and that this is the real Islam.

“We have a cancer within a particular community and it needs to be cut out,” he told Sky News outside Westminster Palace. “The Muslim community I believe needs to do more about this.

  • It would be unIslamic for the muslim community to oppose these attacks
  • “We have the problem that we have 800 British citizens out fighting in Syria and Iraq for Islamic State.
  • The problem is that we have millions of muslims living in Britain.
Comment by Kinana on March 23, 2017 at 14:16

from our Muslim Mayor, for the record.

22 September 2016

Sadiq Khan has said he believes the threat of terror attacks are “part and parcel of living in a big city” and encouraged Londoners to be vigilant to combat dangers.

Comment by Antony on March 23, 2017 at 12:56

There is going to be yet another of those facile candlelit vigils tonight - it would be good if patriotic Brits could turn up and start shouting anti islamist chants ;

Comment by Antony on March 23, 2017 at 10:03

Islam and the cultural enrichment of London ;

Comment by Antony on March 23, 2017 at 9:48
Comment by Philip Smeeton on March 22, 2017 at 15:39

A Muslim of course, but they will be making the usual excuses.

Poor man that we forced to do this and in violation of the teachings of Islam. Our fault.

If there were no muslims in Britain all of the disgusting things that muslims do would, of course, not be happening here. Is that so hard to understand?

Comment by Philip Smeeton on March 16, 2017 at 10:00
Comment by Antony on March 15, 2017 at 12:35

Automation will save Western economies - not immigration ;

Comment by Antony on March 12, 2017 at 7:10

The British People have spoken - a response to Richard Dawkins ;


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Muslim Terrorism Count

Thousands of Deadly Islamic Terror Attacks Since 9/11

Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom of Movement
The government can import new voters - except where that changes the political demographics (i.e. electoral fraud by means of immigration)
4. SP Freedom from Over-spending
People should not be charged for government systems which they reject, and which give them no benefit. For example, the government cannot pass a debt burden across generations (25 years).
An additional Freedom from Religion is be deducible by equal application of law: "Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight - except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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