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Kuffarphobia in UK


Kuffarphobia in UK

For all those who are fighting to protect the 4 Freedoms in the UK

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English Defence League   (NB the authority for EDL statements is their website, not 4F)

Stop Islamisation Of Europe (SIOE) which is also on facebook

  • We emerge from the social fog of multiculturalism to see a landscape totally unrecognisable and more dangerous, like coming out of a bomb shelter and seeing the debris - Kinana
  • Unhealthy immigration happens - and they do nothing; integration fails - and they invent multiculturalism; multiculturalism breeds ethnic conflict - and they waste billions patching up a society that's falling apart. They never get to the root of the matter - Philip Smeeton
  • Always attributing incompetence to malice leads to paranoia.  Never attributing incompetence to malice leads to gullibility -Joe

Discussion Forum

Racist Attacks on White People

Started by Joe. Last reply by Alan Lake Sep 22. 87 Replies

Islam and Firefighters

Started by Kinana. Last reply by Kinana Sep 12. 22 Replies


Started by Philip Smeeton Aug 30. 0 Replies

Free Speech Under Attack Again

Started by C J Bernard Apr 23. 0 Replies

Islam: The Religion of Peace Strikes Again

Started by C J Bernard. Last reply by Alan Lake Mar 26. 1 Reply

Why The UK Will Collapse

Started by Joe. Last reply by Antony Feb 3. 432 Replies

Is this the end of EDL

Started by Arthur. Last reply by Alan Lake Jan 27. 69 Replies

The State is your Enemy

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Dec 13, 2016. 6 Replies

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Comment by Philip Smeeton on May 24, 2017 at 9:05


Most of the attacks against Jews are being carried out by Muslims.

"Must not offend Muslims, Must not offend Muslims, Must not offend Muslims".

Comment by Alan Lake on May 23, 2017 at 18:04

I just used my time machine to capture the news from the end of today.

The authorities released the name of one suspect this morning, Abdul Jihad Islam, and re-iterated that the crime had nothing to do with Islam.  The Islamic State claimed the killer as one of their soldiers, but please note, the Islamic State has nothing to do with Islam either, obviously.

Later Abdul's friend was arrested on suspicion of supplying the nails for the bomb.  This man, Sayyid Killthejews Khan, denied the allegations and said it just another sign of the rampant Islamophobia which Muslims are currently suffering.  He said he was proud of his name and that it was a sign of how deeply religious his parents were.  In fact, he threatened the officers for 'offending' Islam when they asked him to spell his name out, and received a caution for that.

 A search of Abdul and Sayyid's flat revealed a book titled "How to kill the Kuffar" produced by ISIS, which was taken away by police.  Upon questioning, Abdul explained that this book was only an academic exploration of various theoretical questions, and was in no way to be seen as an encouragement or endorsement of killing kuffar.    Officers noted that at one point in the interiew, he sat up and said "When I use words, they mean exactly what I want them to mean, (not what you think they mean)".

The mayor of London, Sadiq Khan, lead a demonstration in late afternoon at Trafalgar Square to protest about the rising tide of Islamophobia in the country.  The rest of the evening was taken up with tv debates about how to tackle the Islamophobia problem, and by the end of it, to the great relief of all  involved, the Manchester bombing was mostly forgotten.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on May 23, 2017 at 15:54

Please stop calling these devils British. Muslims are not and never will be British.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on May 23, 2017 at 15:35

Saman Abedi, Muslim.

Why are the authorities so reluctant to release the name when the terrorist is a muslim?

Must not offend the Muslims.

They are saying that there is nothing they can do to stop all attacks.

Wrong, there is one very obvious thing they are going to have to do and that is rid our nations of these muslim swine.

Comment by Alan Lake on May 23, 2017 at 12:41
Muslim fascists and their quislings are already fighting back FOR Islam.
Comment by Philip Smeeton on May 23, 2017 at 11:13
Comment by Philip Smeeton on May 23, 2017 at 8:47

Almost as much as the terrorist I hate the politicians that come out immediately and say that we must not allow them to make us afraid or to divide us. And that the best response is to carry on with business as usual.

Where is the rage? where is the appropriate response? Why do they not name the cause, (which is that Mohammed preached; cruelty, violence and hatred). And react appropriately by closinfg mosques, banning Islam and deporting it's followers.

This is no conspiracy, Islam; (comprising of everyone that calls themselves Muslim); openly states its intention to through violence force the whole world to become Muslim.

"This time it has been a particular attack on the most vulnerable in our society - its intention was to sow fear - its intention is to divide. But it will not succeed."

"This is an attack on innocent people and the nation is united both in its grief and its determination to stand up to this deplorable attack."

"If it is confirmed this was a terrorist attack it is monstrous act but also a deeply futile one. Manchester is a proud, strong city and we will not allow terrorists who seek to sow fear and division to achieve their aims.”

The same old prepared statements every time.- Our best response is to carry on as if nothing had happened- and to not be afraid -and do not blame the muslims.

We must completely disengage from Muslim conflicts, every time we drop a bomb we create a thousand terrorists, many of whom live in our midst.

We have to admit to the fact that there is a one-sided war going on in our cities.

Only a mindless idiot is not afraid of Islam.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on May 23, 2017 at 8:14
Comment by Antony on May 17, 2017 at 20:37
Comment by Antony on May 17, 2017 at 10:23

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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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