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Kuffarphobia in UK


Kuffarphobia in UK

For all those who are fighting to protect the 4 Freedoms in the UK

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Useful Websites

English Defence League   (NB the authority for EDL statements is their website, not 4F)

Stop Islamisation Of Europe (SIOE) which is also on facebook

  • We emerge from the social fog of multiculturalism to see a landscape totally unrecognisable and more dangerous, like coming out of a bomb shelter and seeing the debris - Kinana
  • Unhealthy immigration happens - and they do nothing; integration fails - and they invent multiculturalism; multiculturalism breeds ethnic conflict - and they waste billions patching up a society that's falling apart. They never get to the root of the matter - Philip Smeeton
  • Always attributing incompetence to malice leads to paranoia.  Never attributing incompetence to malice leads to gullibility -Joe

Discussion Forum

Free Speech Under Attack Again

Started by C J Bernard Apr 23. 0 Replies

Islam: The Religion of Peace Strikes Again

Started by C J Bernard. Last reply by Alan Lake Mar 26. 1 Reply

Why The UK Will Collapse

Started by Joe. Last reply by Antony Feb 3. 432 Replies

Is this the end of EDL

Started by Arthur. Last reply by Alan Lake Jan 27. 69 Replies

The State is your Enemy

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Dec 13, 2016. 6 Replies

Choudary, Anjem.

Started by Philip Smeeton. Last reply by Philip Smeeton Aug 23, 2016. 4 Replies

The EDL and the Fascist Experts

Started by Joe. Last reply by Kinana Jul 15, 2016. 59 Replies

Dear Bishop Cocksworth

Started by C J Bernard. Last reply by Alan Lake May 20, 2016. 4 Replies

Why have the white British left London?

Started by Joe. Last reply by Alan Lake May 17, 2016. 41 Replies

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Comment by paul collings on Monday

The attack on the Finsbury Park Mosque whorshippers has been discribed as a Terror attack.

Theres a stream of people being interviewed on the TV who are discribing the attacker as a white male who deliberately attacked people in a premeditaed attack. 

The truth is probably more that he was some pissed of drunk with mental health problems. A lone wolf attack inspired by the violence of recent events. He wont be on any terror watch list, because he's not a member of any terror group. So suck it up!

The government have called a COBRA meeting, not because they think this is a terror attack, but because the fear of an Islamic backlash is very real.

The outrage by the usual lefties and off course Sadiq Khan is verging on the apoplectic.

The Country will see through this outrage. The man involved will be locked up for ever. That is as it should be. But its obvious a ring of steel will be put round the Islamic community, while the rest of us will be told to carry on as normal.

Comment by Antony on Monday
Comment by Antony on June 18, 2017 at 7:35

Unproductive muslims cost UK £13 billion per year ;

Comment by Philip Smeeton on June 16, 2017 at 14:18

I am not without sympathy for people that burn to death, no one deserves that, or to lose a child or loved one, and I am not exploiting this fire for political purposes, even so I have a duty to truth and to my own people. These people should not be in our country. And it does not detract from the fact that muslims and other immigrants are a burden in every way to us, our nation and culture. They contribute nothing positive and are responsible for most of the crime and all of the terror. And I am really angry about the lack of reaction and blame placing after each terrorist atrocity. If I could have saved the lives of these people in the block I would have, but I would also have deported them all.

Comment by Antony on June 16, 2017 at 14:14

Phil - I'm constantly angered by the amount of aid sent by UK and the West to what are basically 1st world countries, such as oil rich Nigeria,up & coming India and Brazil, and well educated Israel etc - we're being scammed ! most people regard aid as something you give to grindingly poor 3rd world counties at time of a natural disaster and on a temporary basis - not countries like this.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on June 16, 2017 at 13:46


London Mayor Sadiq Khan Gets Hostile Reception During Visit to Grenfell Tower

No one was heckling him after the muslim terrorist attacks, only immigrants and muslims have rights in Britain.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on June 16, 2017 at 13:34

Nigerian Billionaire Marries Model in $6.4 Million Wedding: Go Inside the Opulent Nuptials

Figures released last week show that Nigeria received £1 billion of foreign aid intended to combat starvation and poverty from the UK since 2010.

Comment by paul collings on June 16, 2017 at 9:57

The fire at Grenfell is a tradegy, many people felt safer iving in war torn Syria than in the death trap of one of Britains Tower Blocks. 

Someone will have to be hed account for all those burnt Korans aswell. I notice with the ever increaseing amount of food being donated how hard it is to separate all the permissible food from non permissible food. 

The residents are heading off on a rally later so that everyone knows to blame this government and not any Labour Governmant past or present.

As long as every possible political point can be made regarding this fire we will come together and vote for Corbyn, because only a multi-cultural like venezuela will save us from this sort of tradegy.

This fire highlights the class struggle going on in the UK, we need housing that is up to the standard of islamic and socialist societies.

Image result for Islamic slums

I think Margret Thatcher was probably to blame, if only she hadn't closed all the mines.

Comment by Antony on June 16, 2017 at 9:50

Phil - agree with you're last comment, I remember a while back I saw an interview on tv with a black "gangstah" type involved in street crime such as mugging, and he said he did not go for other blacks, but attacked whites, so even though the crime would formally be listed as financial, there was, de facto, a racial-political motive as well - something anyone who has lived in such africanised areas would have been able to tell you, or at least had strong suspicions over.

Comment by paul collings on June 16, 2017 at 9:24

A mother today said she was praying for her missing five-year-old son who she was separated from as the family fled for safety from the Grenfell Tower fire.

Genet Shawo was attempting to escape the blaze with husband Paulos Petakle, a taxi driver, and their two children Luca, 3 and Isaac, 5.

But Isaac, who had been holding a neighbour’s hand, got lost in the thick black smoke as they made their way from their 18th floor flat down the fire escape.

Choking back tears, Mrs Shawo said: “I will not fear the worse, I am still hoping and praying for him. He is a beautiful boy

Missing, feared dead: Yasin el-Wahabi

Mrs Shawo described how the family, who are originally from Ethiopia, tried to flee the blaze.

Nora Huda, 15, is also among the missing

A “significant number” of the 24-storey tower block’s 600 tenants - including a two-year-old boy and 82-year-old grandfather - are still unnaccounted for.

Another family-of-five are also feared to have died in the inferno.

Mariem Elgwahry was on the 19th floor of the tower and was last seen with her mother at 2.30am. She is missing along with three family members

Relatives of Abdul Aziz el-Wahabi, 52, his wife Faouzia el-Wahabi, 42, and their three children, Yasin, 21, Nur Huda, 15, and Mehdi, eight, are waiting for news amid fears the family has died.

Fears were also growing for missing three-year-old Amaya Tukuh, who was on the 19th floor with her mother Amal Ahmadin, father Mohammed and cousin Amna.

Tony Disson, 66,

Mother-of-two Rania Ibrham, 30, sent a WhatsApp video to a pal begging for help at 2.54am. Neither she nor her children, aged five and three, have been seen since.

Teaching assistant Nadia Choucair, 33, was in a flat on an upper floor with her husband, mother, and young daughter

Mariam Elgwahry, 27, shared a flat on the 19th floor with her mother Eslan, 64, and three family members who are also missing.

Jessica Urbano, 12,

Nicholas Burton woke up in hospital after the blaze and is now hunting for his wife Maria Del Pilar Burton, 65, who has Alzheimer’s.

Berikti Habtom, 35, and her son Buroke, 12, were believed to be at home when the fire started.

Mohamdenur Tuccu, 44, finished work as a security guard at Red Consultancy and went back to break Ramadam fast his with wife Amalahmedin and their three-year-old daughter Mayah

Diabetic Hesham Rahman 57,

Ali Yawar Jafari, 82,

Isra Ibrahim, 32, Fras Ibrahim, 38, and Fathia Ahmed, 72, were all in flat 206 when the fire began and are still missing, along with Berikti Habtom, 30, and her son Buroke, 12.

Mariem Elgwhary, 27, who lived on the 19th floor, and her mother Suhar, are also missing.

Tazmin Belkadi, six, sister Malek, 10, mother Farah Hamdan and father Omar Belkadi.

Zainab Dean, Jeremiah Dean,

Mohammad Alhajali, Marco Gottardi and Gloria Trevisan, both 27, Khadija Saye, 24.


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Muslim Terrorism Count

Thousands of Deadly Islamic Terror Attacks Since 9/11

Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom of Movement
The government can import new voters - except where that changes the political demographics (i.e. electoral fraud by means of immigration)
4. SP Freedom from Over-spending
People should not be charged for government systems which they reject, and which give them no benefit. For example, the government cannot pass a debt burden across generations (25 years).
An additional Freedom from Religion is be deducible by equal application of law: "Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight - except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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