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Kuffarphobia in UK


Kuffarphobia in UK

For all those who are fighting to protect the 4 Freedoms in the UK

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Useful Websites

English Defence League   (NB the authority for EDL statements is their website, not 4F)

Stop Islamisation Of Europe (SIOE) which is also on facebook

  • We emerge from the social fog of multiculturalism to see a landscape totally unrecognisable and more dangerous, like coming out of a bomb shelter and seeing the debris - Kinana
  • Unhealthy immigration happens - and they do nothing; integration fails - and they invent multiculturalism; multiculturalism breeds ethnic conflict - and they waste billions patching up a society that's falling apart. They never get to the root of the matter - Philip Smeeton
  • Always attributing incompetence to malice leads to paranoia.  Never attributing incompetence to malice leads to gullibility -Joe

Discussion Forum

Billy Bragg, the EDL and that Smile!

Started by C J Bernard Oct 10, 2017. 0 Replies

Islam and Firefighters

Started by Kinana. Last reply by Kinana Sep 12, 2017. 22 Replies


Started by Philip Smeeton Aug 30, 2017. 0 Replies

Free Speech Under Attack Again

Started by C J Bernard Apr 23, 2017. 0 Replies

Islam: The Religion of Peace Strikes Again

Started by C J Bernard. Last reply by Alan Lake Mar 26, 2017. 1 Reply

Hate not Hope release another report

Started by Alan Lake Feb 21, 2017. 0 Replies

Why The UK Will Collapse

Started by Joe. Last reply by Antony Feb 3, 2017. 432 Replies

Is this the end of EDL

Started by Arthur. Last reply by Alan Lake Jan 27, 2017. 69 Replies

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Comment by Antony on October 14, 2017 at 6:45

UK Govt - race differences must be explained ;

Comment by Philip Smeeton on October 11, 2017 at 11:53

Without mass-immigration then crime in the UK would be 16.6 % of what it is now.

One sixth of what it is now. The total price that we have paid over the years for immigration, even if you calculate in any economic benefit a selective immigration would have given, is billions and billions of pounds that could have benefited the native population. Then there is the cultural and psychological damage and everything that the victims of crime and terror have suffered. 

This has been going on for decades, and still the un-needed pour in and hammer at the door. Where is a leader with balls when you need him?

Comment by Antony on October 11, 2017 at 6:11

Mainstream delusion after islamic terrorism - Parsons Green ;

Comment by Alan Lake on October 10, 2017 at 20:32
Yes, the satistics are deliberately diced to make the problem of non-native crime look smaller than it is.

In fact, surely Chinese should be included in Asian? Then you have 100 white crimes for every 500+ BAME ones.
Comment by Philip Smeeton on October 10, 2017 at 9:41

Right Alan. Fuck Off! is the best response. 

Or- If you do not understand it, it would be a waste of time for me to try to explain to you something that is abundently obvious to anyone capable of unbiased and reasoned thought.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on October 10, 2017 at 9:18

A flawed report and flawed government thinking.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on October 10, 2017 at 9:17

This too is distorted statistics, what are poorer children? should this not have been- all school children in the UK? In depressed, large immigrant population, poor areas you would expect the minority white children at schools there to perform badly.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on October 10, 2017 at 9:08

Race Disparity Audit.

This report blames everything on white racism and says nothing about the incompatibility with British culture that most immigrants have.

A related article was an interview with an immigrant criminal where inequality was blamed. In reality he chose to ignore his education and to become a criminal, we did not force him. He is not the victim, we are the victims of his crime and the hostility and incompatibility of his minority culture.

Allowing mass-immigration was a mistake. Integration does not happen. People self-segregate into competing ethnic minorities. White people are depressed and angry about immigration. Britain once united is now divided by ethnic conflict. It is a that cannot be repaired, the only cure is mass-deportation. The government solution is to do more of what does not work, with forced integration and persecution of the nationalist voice of reason.

(If I am right?) There is a blatant misinterpretation of statistics her:

Shouldn't this read 100 whites, 400+ BAME? 

BAME. Black, Asian, and minority ethnic (used to refer to members of non-white communities in the UK).

Comment by Antony on October 10, 2017 at 6:11

Mainstream delusion about islamic terror - Barcelona ;

Comment by Alan Lake on October 10, 2017 at 1:35

They don't care about your disavowal.

I think counterarguing is over-rated.  Better to respond more like this:

"What gives you the right to try me, let alone pronounce judgement on me, with your pathetic, twisted vision? Screw you, you pompous, conceited git"


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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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