The 4 Freedoms Library

It takes a nation to protect the nation

Kuffarphobia in UK


Kuffarphobia in UK

For all those who are fighting to protect the 4 Freedoms in the UK

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Members: 243
Latest Activity: 2 hours ago

Key Info

Useful Websites

English Defence League   (NB the authority for EDL statements is their website, not 4F)

Stop Islamisation Of Europe (SIOE) which is also on facebook

  • We emerge from the social fog of multiculturalism to see a landscape totally unrecognisable and more dangerous, like coming out of a bomb shelter and seeing the debris - Kinana
  • Unhealthy immigration happens - and they do nothing; integration fails - and they invent multiculturalism; multiculturalism breeds ethnic conflict - and they waste billions patching up a society that's falling apart. They never get to the root of the matter - Philip Smeeton
  • Always attributing incompetence to malice leads to paranoia.  Never attributing incompetence to malice leads to gullibility -Joe

Discussion Forum

Racist Attacks on White People

Started by Joe. Last reply by Alan Lake Sep 22. 87 Replies

Islam and Firefighters

Started by Kinana. Last reply by Kinana Sep 12. 22 Replies


Started by Philip Smeeton Aug 30. 0 Replies

Free Speech Under Attack Again

Started by C J Bernard Apr 23. 0 Replies

Islam: The Religion of Peace Strikes Again

Started by C J Bernard. Last reply by Alan Lake Mar 26. 1 Reply

Why The UK Will Collapse

Started by Joe. Last reply by Antony Feb 3. 432 Replies

Is this the end of EDL

Started by Arthur. Last reply by Alan Lake Jan 27. 69 Replies

The State is your Enemy

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Dec 13, 2016. 6 Replies

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Comment by Joe 2 hours ago

There is undoubtedly something fishy about FLA.  Police agreed not to film people on the march?  One of the 2 figure-heads a) spent years taking orders from the State, then b) went on to have a career as a mercenary, taking orders from the highest bidder.  Yeah, he's an independent thinker.  The FLA took advice from the SWP and even applauded the SWP front Stand Up To Racism (as the SWP front abused those on the squeaky-clean "don't mention Islam" demo).

The State infiltrated and controlled even the Green movement.  So I've no doubt that the FLA is managed by the State.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on Tuesday

More good news from Eastern-Europe.

In center of Europe, politics takes a Trumpian turn with rise of anti-immigrant billionaire.

“…..Europe, a land where President Trump is widely reviled, …”

Comments like this are direct lies, it is only the leaders of the EU and socialists that hate Trump in  the “land” of Europe.

Also, as far as I can see Trump is trying to make good on his promises. Though the art-of-the-deal requires compromises.

Comment by Antony on Tuesday
Comment by Philip Smeeton on October 14, 2017 at 9:56

Sitting there surrounded by immigrants she is unlikely to arrive at any conclusion remotely reflecting the truth. That allowing mass-immigration was a huge mistake and that the immigrants have themselves to blame for their poor performance and lack of integration. There is actually equal opportunity in Britain.

Comment by Antony on October 14, 2017 at 6:45

UK Govt - race differences must be explained ;

Comment by Philip Smeeton on October 11, 2017 at 11:53

Without mass-immigration then crime in the UK would be 16.6 % of what it is now.

One sixth of what it is now. The total price that we have paid over the years for immigration, even if you calculate in any economic benefit a selective immigration would have given, is billions and billions of pounds that could have benefited the native population. Then there is the cultural and psychological damage and everything that the victims of crime and terror have suffered. 

This has been going on for decades, and still the un-needed pour in and hammer at the door. Where is a leader with balls when you need him?

Comment by Antony on October 11, 2017 at 6:11

Mainstream delusion after islamic terrorism - Parsons Green ;

Comment by Alan Lake on October 10, 2017 at 20:32
Yes, the satistics are deliberately diced to make the problem of non-native crime look smaller than it is.

In fact, surely Chinese should be included in Asian? Then you have 100 white crimes for every 500+ BAME ones.
Comment by Philip Smeeton on October 10, 2017 at 9:41

Right Alan. Fuck Off! is the best response. 

Or- If you do not understand it, it would be a waste of time for me to try to explain to you something that is abundently obvious to anyone capable of unbiased and reasoned thought.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on October 10, 2017 at 9:18

A flawed report and flawed government thinking.


Members (243)


Muslim Terrorism Count

Thousands of Deadly Islamic Terror Attacks Since 9/11

Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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