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Kuffarphobia in UK


Kuffarphobia in UK

For all those who are fighting to protect the 4 Freedoms in the UK

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English Defence League   (NB the authority for EDL statements is their website, not 4F)

Stop Islamisation Of Europe (SIOE) which is also on facebook

  • We emerge from the social fog of multiculturalism to see a landscape totally unrecognisable and more dangerous, like coming out of a bomb shelter and seeing the debris - Kinana
  • Unhealthy immigration happens - and they do nothing; integration fails - and they invent multiculturalism; multiculturalism breeds ethnic conflict - and they waste billions patching up a society that's falling apart. They never get to the root of the matter - Philip Smeeton
  • Always attributing incompetence to malice leads to paranoia.  Never attributing incompetence to malice leads to gullibility -Joe

Discussion Forum

Why The UK Will Collapse

Started by Joe. Last reply by Joe yesterday. 434 Replies

Billy Bragg, the EDL and that Smile!

Started by C J Bernard Oct 10, 2017. 0 Replies

Islam and Firefighters

Started by Kinana. Last reply by Kinana Sep 12, 2017. 22 Replies


Started by Philip Smeeton Aug 30, 2017. 0 Replies

Free Speech Under Attack Again

Started by C J Bernard Apr 23, 2017. 0 Replies

Islam: The Religion of Peace Strikes Again

Started by C J Bernard. Last reply by Alan Lake Mar 26, 2017. 1 Reply

Hate not Hope release another report

Started by Alan Lake Feb 21, 2017. 0 Replies

Is this the end of EDL

Started by Arthur. Last reply by Alan Lake Jan 27, 2017. 69 Replies

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Comment by Alan Lake on November 12, 2017 at 13:08
I think it was Douglas Murray that pointed out that China is for the Chinese, Africa is for Africans (so the eradication and displacement of Whites in Zimbabwe and South Africa is totally normal), but Europe is for everybody.
Comment by Philip Smeeton on November 12, 2017 at 11:22

The battle-cry of the liberal-socialists is: One World, One Race, One Culture! Which is what we may arrive at in the far distant future. However what they are doing now and forcing on people is causing ethnic conflict. You cannot just open borders, declare everyone to be absolutely equal and dismantle nations. Italians want to be Italians and Chinese like being Chinese, it is human nature. Change has to happen naturally, forcing change is a recipe for disaster. We have a long way to go in solving ecological and economic problems, and in eradicating; crime, conflict and war.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on November 12, 2017 at 10:18

We have to remember too. That identifying your Self as White and wanting to defend European culture and values is not racist in any evil sense. I prefer my own kind and culture and want to live in a nation that is predominantly populated by those that I can identify with. Other nations do this and are allowed to get away with it, China is very racist.

If I say I prefer white people and white culture (nothing more and nothing less) I am automatically condemned as a vile and evil racist; that hates other races and considers them inferior, or that I want to enslave, kill, exploit or exterminate them; none of which is true. I just want to get on with my life and allow others to get on with theirs. However I am being denied my right by those that want multiculturalism and everything that that implies, while they ignore the conflict and suffering that their ideals cause.

Comment by Antony on November 12, 2017 at 9:28
Comment by Kinana on November 11, 2017 at 19:45

Comment by Antony yesterday

Its OK To Be White

Thanks Antony. We r in a very sorry state when such a truth needs to be stated.

Comment by Kinana on November 11, 2017 at 19:40

Muslims are directly hostile to British culture

That is quite a website Philip. Good 4 you to have a go there. 

Your statement above is incontestable. Which is why ALL the subsequent commenters ignored it. 

Comment by Philip Smeeton on November 11, 2017 at 18:35

The Guardian.

Another one for the humour page.

“Elite Media Scandal Widens: 4 Guardian Staffers Under Investigation for Misconduct”.

I would add though that certain men from all walks of life have abused women and girls. Men have to be taught the difference between right and wrong and what consent and no mean.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on November 11, 2017 at 14:15

My comments: You ignore all of the crime and terror that immigration has brought, this did not exist until too many foreigners were admitted. Most of those that have entered Britain since the end of WWII are incompatible and will never integrate. Muslims are directly hostile to British culture. We have now ethnic conflict where there was once harmony. This is not about morality, it is about what is best for the native population of Britain. We are best served by Britain being truly British.

You are suffering from the "I am not a racist" syndrome, that makes you deny and sacrifice yourself for an imagined higher morality. You are not morally superior, just a self-deluded and destructive fool. Suffering from white guilt.

Moving to Kenya will not make you an African and change the colour of your skin, they will hate you there just for being white.

I am a citizen of another country, but I was born English to English parents, and that makes me forever English and nothing else.

- 50% of British agree with me that having the passport does not make you British. Your DNA describes you.

Comment by Antony on November 11, 2017 at 11:01

Thoughts on "de-colonisation" as anti-white discourse ;

Comment by Antony on November 11, 2017 at 10:53

37% of Brits do not consider foreigners who have been given UK citizenship to be British ;


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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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