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Kuffarphobia in UK


Kuffarphobia in UK

For all those who are fighting to protect the 4 Freedoms in the UK

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Useful Websites

English Defence League   (NB the authority for EDL statements is their website, not 4F)

Stop Islamisation Of Europe (SIOE) which is also on facebook

  • We emerge from the social fog of multiculturalism to see a landscape totally unrecognisable and more dangerous, like coming out of a bomb shelter and seeing the debris - Kinana
  • Unhealthy immigration happens - and they do nothing; integration fails - and they invent multiculturalism; multiculturalism breeds ethnic conflict - and they waste billions patching up a society that's falling apart. They never get to the root of the matter - Philip Smeeton
  • Always attributing incompetence to malice leads to paranoia.  Never attributing incompetence to malice leads to gullibility -Joe

Discussion Forum

Billy Bragg, the EDL and that Smile!

Started by C J Bernard Oct 10, 2017. 0 Replies

Racist Attacks on White People

Started by Joe. Last reply by Alan Lake Sep 22, 2017. 87 Replies

Islam and Firefighters

Started by Kinana. Last reply by Kinana Sep 12, 2017. 22 Replies


Started by Philip Smeeton Aug 30, 2017. 0 Replies

The Persecution of Tommy Robinson - collected articles

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by paul collings May 25, 2017. 73 Replies

Free Speech Under Attack Again

Started by C J Bernard Apr 23, 2017. 0 Replies

Islam: The Religion of Peace Strikes Again

Started by C J Bernard. Last reply by Alan Lake Mar 26, 2017. 1 Reply

Hate not Hope release another report

Started by Alan Lake Feb 21, 2017. 0 Replies

Why The UK Will Collapse

Started by Joe. Last reply by Antony Feb 3, 2017. 432 Replies

Is this the end of EDL

Started by Arthur. Last reply by Alan Lake Jan 27, 2017. 69 Replies

The State is your Enemy

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Dec 13, 2016. 6 Replies

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Comment by Philip Smeeton on Thursday

“Today, at Laganside Court in Belfast, Britain First leader Paul Golding pleaded not guilty to the charges of making a speech criticising Islam. “
This is from BritainFirst.
Is he being charged with “criticising Islam”? Is this a crime?
He has been charged with "inciting hatred”, but all he has actually done is criticised Islam. I guess at least one million people are guilty of that crime. Build more prisons!

Comment by Philip Smeeton on Thursday

It's not about discriminating gays in the military. Don't ask don't tell worked fine. But as soon as you focus on not discriminating one group you end up being forced to accept almost anyone that can claim to be discriminated. There are very good reasons not to trust Muslims. Having transgender or women living close together with men makes things unnecessarily complicated. Women are bound to get abused and transsexuals mistreated. It would go out over morale and the fighting spirit in combat troops. In order to survive and be effective the combat group must not have internal conflict. You bond with the group and trust your life to them. As in everything else, we want the most capable people to do the job, unfettered.

Comment by Antony on Thursday

Re the "British" army ad below - I've nothing against gays joining the army - but why did they have to use a picture of a camp looking bloke with a beard demonstrating a submissive gay sex position ?!

Comment by Philip Smeeton on Thursday
British Army Recruitment Campaign Focuses on Islam, Sexual Diversity, Banishes Macho Image
Arming and training Muslims is madness. I have been in the British army but now I would not join, because I would not be able to regard Muslims as my brothers in arms, and I would fear being shot in the back by them.
I would also find it disturbing to share barracks with transsexuals, homosexuals and even women.

Comment by Antony on January 8, 2018 at 20:12

Discussing European immigration propaganda ;

Comment by Philip Smeeton on January 8, 2018 at 11:16

Agree Antony.

Comment by Antony on January 8, 2018 at 8:00

Pakistan to deport 1.5 million Afghanis ;  - sounds ok, if Pakistan can do this to unwanted immigrants, we can send back all our Pakistani immigrants.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on January 7, 2018 at 20:50

I love Katie.

Comment by Alan Lake on January 7, 2018 at 20:24

Katie Hopkins: Get Furious and Fight Back

Comment by Philip Smeeton on January 7, 2018 at 11:48

The Rebel will fire Katie Hopkins before too long, everyone fires her. The Canadians have lived without problems for so long that they cannot recognise a danger when it comes along. The same is true of Scandinavia, they have lost their self-preservation instinct and are defenceless.


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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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