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Kuffarphobia in UK


Kuffarphobia in UK

For all those who are fighting to protect the 4 Freedoms in the UK

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Useful Websites

English Defence League   (NB the authority for EDL statements is their website, not 4F)

Stop Islamisation Of Europe (SIOE) which is also on facebook

  • We emerge from the social fog of multiculturalism to see a landscape totally unrecognisable and more dangerous, like coming out of a bomb shelter and seeing the debris - Kinana
  • Unhealthy immigration happens - and they do nothing; integration fails - and they invent multiculturalism; multiculturalism breeds ethnic conflict - and they waste billions patching up a society that's falling apart. They never get to the root of the matter - Philip Smeeton
  • Always attributing incompetence to malice leads to paranoia.  Never attributing incompetence to malice leads to gullibility -Joe

Discussion Forum

The Police Will Not Protect You

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Jul 5. 1 Reply

Racist Attacks on White People

Started by Joe. Last reply by Alan Lake Jun 12. 102 Replies

We Stand with the Victims

Started by C J Bernard Apr 22. 0 Replies

The Dying of Free Speech in the UK

Started by C J Bernard. Last reply by Antony Apr 4. 3 Replies

The EDL and the POTUS

Started by C J Bernard Mar 31. 0 Replies

Billy Bragg, the EDL and that Smile!

Started by C J Bernard Oct 10, 2017. 0 Replies

Islam and Firefighters

Started by Kinana. Last reply by Kinana Sep 12, 2017. 22 Replies


Started by Philip Smeeton Aug 30, 2017. 0 Replies

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Comment by Philip Smeeton on April 15, 2018 at 18:02

"...a conversation between two people from different planets, with incomprehensible languages..."
That is precisely it, communication is no longer possible. We are using entirely different definitions of reality, words and terms. It is total polarization. There are three languages; normal, leftist and Muslim. It cannot end well.
-Global Liberal Socialist speak.
-Global Muslim speak.
-Normal, reasoned, rational, clearly comprehended, and logical language.
I would term the first two above as quasi-religious gibberish and thus discountable. The babblings of lunatics may well make sense to them, but only to them. The rest of us must suffer and endure the madness and its consequences in agonizing silence.

Comment by Alan Lake on April 15, 2018 at 15:22

I gave up listening to the Enoch Powell program half way through.  It was like listening to a conversation between two people from different planets, with incomprehensible languages - and no attempt made to bridge the gap.  On top of that, the liberal responders - i.e. 95% of those invited to respond - were so pathetically transparent in their eagerness to virtue signal that it was revolting.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on April 15, 2018 at 10:15

Rees-Mogg is a weakling, his father was a traitor, Edward Heath was an idiot. Our last chance was Enoch Powell. We need a leader with the strength, wisdom and determination to put things right. But we have no Trump, Putin or Orban to vote for, no political party worth joining. Not even a democracy that allows us a voice.

Comment by Antony on April 15, 2018 at 5:59

Rees-Mogg against Enoch Powell speech being broadcast - what a sell-out ! ; - he has also remained silent on the toxic witch Theresa May's treasonous attack on Syria.

Comment by Antony on April 14, 2018 at 21:28

Salisbury toxin in UK service according to Swiss lab ;

Comment by Philip Smeeton on April 13, 2018 at 16:48

Karen Pierce, another clown.

Idiocracy: Government by idiots.

Comment by Antony on April 13, 2018 at 12:45
Comment by Antony on April 12, 2018 at 22:02

UK ambassador to UN says Marx must be turning in his grave ! ;

Comment by Alan Lake on April 10, 2018 at 18:20

Just look at the faces in that article.  Tony Blair starting to look like Gollum and Theresa May like a naive and gullible cat lady.  I so dearly wish for a leader with a face like the impassive and expressionless Xi Jinping or the quietly calculating and confident Putin.

Comment by Antony on April 10, 2018 at 17:35

Tony Blair says Britain should intervene in Syria ; - s'funny... I seem to recall him pulling the same stunt a while back...


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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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