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Kuffarphobia in UK


Kuffarphobia in UK

For all those who are fighting to protect the 4 Freedoms in the UK

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English Defence League   (NB the authority for EDL statements is their website, not 4F)

Stop Islamisation Of Europe (SIOE) which is also on facebook

  • We emerge from the social fog of multiculturalism to see a landscape totally unrecognisable and more dangerous, like coming out of a bomb shelter and seeing the debris - Kinana
  • Unhealthy immigration happens - and they do nothing; integration fails - and they invent multiculturalism; multiculturalism breeds ethnic conflict - and they waste billions patching up a society that's falling apart. They never get to the root of the matter - Philip Smeeton
  • Always attributing incompetence to malice leads to paranoia.  Never attributing incompetence to malice leads to gullibility -Joe

Discussion Forum

The Dying of Free Speech in the UK

Started by C J Bernard. Last reply by Antony Apr 4. 3 Replies

The EDL and the POTUS

Started by C J Bernard Mar 31. 0 Replies

Billy Bragg, the EDL and that Smile!

Started by C J Bernard Oct 10, 2017. 0 Replies

Islam and Firefighters

Started by Kinana. Last reply by Kinana Sep 12, 2017. 22 Replies


Started by Philip Smeeton Aug 30, 2017. 0 Replies

Free Speech Under Attack Again

Started by C J Bernard Apr 23, 2017. 0 Replies

Islam: The Religion of Peace Strikes Again

Started by C J Bernard. Last reply by Alan Lake Mar 26, 2017. 1 Reply

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Comment by Antony 5 hours ago
Comment by Antony 6 hours ago

50th Anniversary of Rivers of Blood speech ;

Comment by Philip Smeeton yesterday

I agree Joe, you have accurately described the situation. I can see no way out of it, unless by some miracle the BRITISH react, and the leader we need emerges.

Had you stood openly anywhere and said this, the thugs would have beaten you down and the police would have picked up the pieces and locked you up in an islamist run prison. Give me a gun and point me in the right direction, that's all I ask, but nobody does, and I have no intention of becoming a terrorist. The sum all of the fears of "our" authorities will be realized and far-right-white terrorists will emerge and it will be entirely the fault of the "leaders" that betrayed and failed to protect US.

I would put the noose around their necks and pull the trapdoor lever willingly.

Comment by Joe on Wednesday

Incredibly on p.16 they breezily discuss that by 2050 (or 2060 at the latest), the British will be a minority in our own country.

The response is overwhelmingly negative e.g. 47% unhappy to 2% who would be happy with it.  Think about that.  Without drastic change (e.g. mass deportation, or sterilisation of immigrants) we are talking about a demographic inevitability.   

That demographic inevitability is going to befall most people in Britain under the age of 50 today.  There will be no drastic change to stop this.  So this is what is accepted as coming, even by the deluded Leftists of HNH.

As the other information I've previously provided, about the overwhelming amount of racist violence being disproportionately visited upon the native Brits, when we were the overwhelming majority, what is it going to be like as our % of the population shrinks?  

Powell thought the blood that was spilt would be that of the immigrants.  He was 100% wrong.  The rivers of blood will be that of the Brits.

Comment by Joe on Wednesday

I looked through the report but couldn't see anything about the ethnicity of the respondents.

However, looking at the chart on p.11, only 11% believe in allowing in unproductive people.

13% thought we should stop all immigration (at least until the economy booms).

So, assuming they just packed 20% of unwanted immigrants into the survey sample, the number in favour of immigration should be reduced to about 9% and the number opposing it entirely can probably be increased to about 15%.   And this is after 50 years of brainwashing and demonising of Powell.

Comment by Joe on Wednesday

That Guardian report is meaningless rubbish.

The only people who should be able to have a response on such a survey on the failures of multiculturalism should be the native British.  Anyone from the EU, Africa or Asia, etc. has no opinion on multiculturalism in Britain that is of any value.

We never asked for them to be here.  Multiculturalism was imposed upon us as an afterthought to the problems of turning the UK from 100% British to 80% British.  

Without making it clear that the respondent's family was here 50 years ago, it is meaningless.  The Left are so blind they cannot see that this is a significant measure of the attitude to the invasion.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on Tuesday

There are terrible and disgusting things going on every single day in the middle east but this gas attack was obviously fake.

Comment by Antony on Tuesday
Comment by Philip Smeeton on Tuesday

It is a strange strange strange strange strange world when the far-left condemn their pet, the BBC.

-"GEORGE Galloway has declared he will no longer pay for the BBC - because he claims it is biased."

Now, this staement by Galloway belongs on the dark humour page. Ha Ha Ha!

“I will not pay to be lied to #TVLivenceStrike #BBC”
“I won’t watch or listen or appear on the #BBC henceforth."
And Corbyn is condemning the GUARDIAN! lol.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on Tuesday

I will not even live in Oslo, crime is out of control there too.


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Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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