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Kuffarphobia in UK


Kuffarphobia in UK

For all those who are fighting to protect the 4 Freedoms in the UK

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Useful Websites

English Defence League   (NB the authority for EDL statements is their website, not 4F)

Stop Islamisation Of Europe (SIOE) which is also on facebook

  • We emerge from the social fog of multiculturalism to see a landscape totally unrecognisable and more dangerous, like coming out of a bomb shelter and seeing the debris - Kinana
  • Unhealthy immigration happens - and they do nothing; integration fails - and they invent multiculturalism; multiculturalism breeds ethnic conflict - and they waste billions patching up a society that's falling apart. They never get to the root of the matter - Philip Smeeton
  • Always attributing incompetence to malice leads to paranoia.  Never attributing incompetence to malice leads to gullibility -Joe

Discussion Forum

Why The UK Will Collapse

Started by Joe. Last reply by Alan Lake Aug 30. 441 Replies

The Persecution of Tommy Robinson

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Antony Aug 25. 113 Replies

Victor Davis Hanson: collected articles

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Aug 20. 13 Replies

The Police Will Not Protect You

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Jul 5. 1 Reply

Racist Attacks on White People

Started by Joe. Last reply by Alan Lake Jun 12. 102 Replies

We Stand with the Victims

Started by C J Bernard Apr 22. 0 Replies

The Dying of Free Speech in the UK

Started by C J Bernard. Last reply by Antony Apr 4. 3 Replies

The EDL and the POTUS

Started by C J Bernard Mar 31. 0 Replies

Billy Bragg, the EDL and that Smile!

Started by C J Bernard Oct 10, 2017. 0 Replies

Islam and Firefighters

Started by Kinana. Last reply by Kinana Sep 12, 2017. 22 Replies

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Comment by Antony on May 15, 2018 at 9:22
Comment by Philip Smeeton on May 14, 2018 at 15:50

"The state will simply sacrifice the least troublesome group".
The ban on smoking is an example of this.
There are huge problems like; narcotic deaths and addiction,  the rape epidemic, and immmigant crime. We are not safe on our streets, but if he smokes in a forbidden area, the otherwise law-abiding smoker is arrested.
Meanwhile people are assaulted, robbed or raped in our parks for being white or christian, narcotics are sold openly and there are areas it is unwise to enter. Preventing serious crime is the task of the law-makers and the police, but they waste resources on persecuting people that may have caused offence in some way to members of a creed that is sworn to destroy us.
"People see on the screen what they want to see in real life".
I have noticed though that these British TV shows about law and order are more concerned with selling diversity than justice. Reality and entertainment value has been sacrificed to multiculturalism.

Comment by Antony on May 13, 2018 at 22:10
Comment by Alan Lake on May 13, 2018 at 21:02

What amazed me in that video was the expectation from the Christians that the police or the state had any intention of protecting them.  I gave up thinking that years ago.  The state will simply sacrifice the least troublesome group.  It begins with poorly equipped squadies destroyed in Afghanistan, and ends with you and me, silenced so as not to offend Muslims. You are on your own: get used to it.

Comment by Kinana on May 13, 2018 at 20:57

I confirm that the expectation of the police being amongst us to protect, serve and uphold the law is a tv fantasy   

Maybe that is why cops and detective programs are so popular. People see on the screen what they want to see in real life   

A real turn around is required if the police do not want to totally lose the confidence of the people   

Comment by Philip Smeeton on May 13, 2018 at 16:31

Christians (and police!) are being assaulted by Muslims. At Speakers Corner.

The British police are completely in competent. They are there to protect life and property and they do not.

It is the Muslims that are doing all of the attacking, they are the problem. Even though some Muslims claim that not all muslims are violent, their ideology, their religion, incites to and condones violence.

Comment by Antony on May 12, 2018 at 17:28

Democratic Football Lads Alliance - Manchester - Saturday June 2nd ;

Comment by Philip Smeeton on May 12, 2018 at 16:38

Romanians beat muslims in the UK after told not to drink.

Comment by Antony on May 12, 2018 at 11:31

Anti White attacks by Blacks - Poles speak out - no one else seems to have the guts to do so ;

Comment by Antony on May 9, 2018 at 6:03

Phil - re the London stabbings etc - a question for the EDL et al would be that as more people have died in London alone in these "yardie" type attacks than have died in islamic terrorism - why do they not cover the issue ?!...


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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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