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Kuffarphobia in UK


Kuffarphobia in UK

For all those who are fighting to protect the 4 Freedoms in the UK

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Useful Websites

English Defence League   (NB the authority for EDL statements is their website, not 4F)

Stop Islamisation Of Europe (SIOE) which is also on facebook

  • We emerge from the social fog of multiculturalism to see a landscape totally unrecognisable and more dangerous, like coming out of a bomb shelter and seeing the debris - Kinana
  • Unhealthy immigration happens - and they do nothing; integration fails - and they invent multiculturalism; multiculturalism breeds ethnic conflict - and they waste billions patching up a society that's falling apart. They never get to the root of the matter - Philip Smeeton
  • Always attributing incompetence to malice leads to paranoia.  Never attributing incompetence to malice leads to gullibility -Joe

Discussion Forum

The Persecution of Tommy Robinson

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Nov 6. 125 Replies

Victor Davis Hanson: collected articles

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Oct 22. 14 Replies

The Police Will Not Protect You

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Jul 5. 1 Reply

We Stand with the Victims

Started by C J Bernard Apr 22. 0 Replies

The Dying of Free Speech in the UK

Started by C J Bernard. Last reply by Antony Apr 4. 3 Replies

The EDL and the POTUS

Started by C J Bernard Mar 31. 0 Replies

Billy Bragg, the EDL and that Smile!

Started by C J Bernard Oct 10, 2017. 0 Replies

Islam and Firefighters

Started by Kinana. Last reply by Kinana Sep 12, 2017. 22 Replies

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Comment by Joe on July 31, 2018 at 11:16

Where to put this?

Three years before he massacred kids at a pop concert, the devout Muslim from Libya had been rescued by the Royal Navy and brought to Britain.

If MI5 still had a mission to destroy subversives, that piece of scum would have been shot in the head rather than taken to the UK.  Our security and defence forces actually work against us.

Comment by Alan Lake on July 29, 2018 at 11:14

There are some choice statements in the Paris Statement, as below.

  • Assimilation without integration is colonisation

Which makes me realise that mosques should be rejected as colonial outposts.

  • Talk of diversity, inclusion and multiculturalism is empty. Often, such language is deployed as a way to characterize our failures as accomplishments: The unravelling of social solidarity is ‘actually’ a sign of welcome, tolerance, and inclusion. This is marketing language, a language meant to obscure reality rather than illuminate.
  • Human dignity is more than the right to be left alone, and doctrines of international human rights do not exhaust the claims of justice, much less of the good.
  • Marriage and children are integral to any vision of human flourishing. Children require sacrifice from those who bring them into the world. This sacrifice is noble and must be honoured. We endorse prudent social policies to encourage and strengthen marriage, childbearing, and childrearing. A society that fails to welcome children has no future.
Comment by Philip Smeeton on July 26, 2018 at 15:09

"As Europeans, we also share a common heritage, and this heritage asks us to live together in peace as a Europe of nations".
To us this is obvious because we are practical and do not ignore the evidence that, multiculturalism attempted ends in ethnic conflict at every level. We are not blinded by an idealism based on a mistaken morality. I see every day in the city muslims and africans that are completely alien, with whom I have nothing in common other than that we are human beings. They would be better off among their own kind in their own countries, but are blinded by a get rich quick fantasy and free handouts. In addition the muslims really do believe their culture to be so superior that it has to be forced on everyone else.
We europeans are the ones that are being treated immorally by our insanely idealistic leaders. Time to throw them out, our leaders and the aliens.

Comment by Kinana on July 26, 2018 at 13:51

"In this moment, we ask all Europeans to join us in rejecting the utopian fantasy of a multicultural world without borders. We rightly love our homelands, and we seek to hand on to our children every noble thing that we have ourselves received as our patrimony. As Europeans, we also share a common heritage, and this heritage asks us to live together in peace as a Europe of nations. Let us renew national sovereignty, and recover the dignity of a shared political responsibility for Europe’s future."

several signers to this statement.  one of them is 

Roger Scruton (United Kingdom)

Comment by Antony on July 25, 2018 at 15:28
Comment by Alan Lake on July 23, 2018 at 15:13

Grieving Scots are asking for crosses to be removed from funeral chapels

Comment by Philip Smeeton on July 17, 2018 at 15:43

WEATHER WARNING: Three weeks without sunspots leaves experts fearing BIG FREEZE.

Global de-warming? This is not it of course, but years ago I heard a climate expert say that global warming could eventually reverse into a new ice age.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on July 14, 2018 at 14:15

We emerge from the social fog of multiculturalism to see a landscape totally unrecognisable and more dangerous, like coming out of a bomb shelter and seeing the debris - Kinana

One thing I notice every time that I watch the telly is that in many cases the product being sold is subordinate to the political message they are selling. This used to be Europe, but in ads, be it for paint, furniture, cellphones, clothes or automobiles the primary figure is often a person of colour. Which would be fine if the customer target was global. But one principle of advertising is that the buyer identifies with the product, sees himself buying it. In Japan use Japanese actors in Europe European actors.

Comment by Kinana on July 14, 2018 at 13:46

'A boy, 16, from Hillingdon and a 15-year-old girl from Croydon were bailed after being arrested on suspicion of assault occasioning grievous bodily harm.'

But they are just children!!  Must be socially deprived and unloved so the law will have mercy on them. 

Comment by Philip Smeeton on July 14, 2018 at 9:38

"Ex-ambassador is brutally beaten".
Expecting leftist liberals to agree with us is like asking a devout person to stop believing in God. It just ain't gonna happen.
It's all immutable blind faith.


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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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