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Kuffarphobia in UK


Kuffarphobia in UK

For all those who are fighting to protect the 4 Freedoms in the UK

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Useful Websites

English Defence League   (NB the authority for EDL statements is their website, not 4F)

Stop Islamisation Of Europe (SIOE) which is also on facebook

  • We emerge from the social fog of multiculturalism to see a landscape totally unrecognisable and more dangerous, like coming out of a bomb shelter and seeing the debris - Kinana
  • Unhealthy immigration happens - and they do nothing; integration fails - and they invent multiculturalism; multiculturalism breeds ethnic conflict - and they waste billions patching up a society that's falling apart. They never get to the root of the matter - Philip Smeeton
  • Always attributing incompetence to malice leads to paranoia.  Never attributing incompetence to malice leads to gullibility -Joe

Discussion Forum

Britain First

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Jun 2. 4 Replies

UK Police submitting to mob rule

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake May 28. 4 Replies

Patriotic Alternative

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake May 28. 3 Replies

Why The UK Will Collapse

Started by Joe. Last reply by Antony Oct 16, 2020. 475 Replies

Gold Wars

Started by Joe. Last reply by Alan Lake Jun 11, 2020. 5 Replies

We Stand with the Victims

Started by C J Bernard. Last reply by paul collings Mar 19, 2020. 1 Reply

The Police Will Not Protect You

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Mar 11, 2020. 2 Replies

Islam and Firefighters

Started by Kinana. Last reply by Alan Lake Feb 26, 2020. 24 Replies

Why have the white British left London?

Started by Joe. Last reply by Philip Smeeton Feb 5, 2020. 49 Replies

Brexit and Islam

Started by Kinana. Last reply by Alan Lake Sep 11, 2019. 12 Replies

Hate not Hope: the Pushback Begins

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Kinana Mar 22, 2019. 5 Replies

UK Police: Political Bias & Corruption

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Mar 18, 2019. 3 Replies

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Comment by Philip Smeeton on February 8, 2020 at 19:04

Lord Pearson.

does not get it.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on February 8, 2020 at 19:03

Islam cannot be reformed, Mohammed forbade it. What we have here is politicians terrified to offend Muslims for some reason. The religion of Islam is to blame for the terrorist attacks as anyone that can be bothered to read the texts used by the terrorists will understand. Islam must be banned.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on February 8, 2020 at 18:52
Report: Wuhan Province Cremating Hundreds per Day While China Reports (only)Dozens of Virus Deaths.

If this is true then there is every reason to panic.

Comment by Alan Lake on February 8, 2020 at 15:15

Lord Pearson tries again to wake up the House of Lords:

Comment by Philip Smeeton on February 8, 2020 at 14:31

The Eastern European countries like Hungary are never going to allow Turkey in and well don't tell anyone but I think the Serbs have a right to Kosovo.

Comment by Tony Ashworth on February 8, 2020 at 14:25

They are scrambling for any win for short term advantage. Do you not think theres a chance of accepting Turkey into the EU now, especially with Turkey's capability of sending waves of immigrants into Europe? Turkey accepting Russian anti aircraft missiles and other weaponry to the disgust of the US. Maybe they are testing the water with Albania (small muslim country) joining the EU? What's happening with the Serbs are they still simmering away annoyed at others?

Comment by Philip Smeeton on February 8, 2020 at 12:50

Albania is the only Muslim country in Europe and Macedonia has a Muslim terrorist problem. They will both be economic burdens.

Comment by Tony Ashworth on February 8, 2020 at 11:33

UK out, Albania in: Is EU 'compensating' for Brexit by
expanding into the Balkans or countering an
imaginary 'Russian threat'?
The rats in Brussels scrambling to try and get even
smallest win before the next exit and let future
administration sort it out. They're kicking the can down the

Comment by Philip Smeeton on February 8, 2020 at 8:43

Well we are not survivalist lunatics Heather. Just people that interpret the news and are concerned. But in the face of a pandemic what can anyone really do? We can prolong our lives for a few weeks. Some survive disease, I guess that's like winning the lottery. The lucky ones, at least here, are the experienced hunters and those that already are growing their own food. My talent is that I can live alone easily, I was born that way. I have told my children they must stock in food because if the disease crosses the border there will be panic. I just do not have enough money to buy supplies for them. I usually pack things like flour in plastic bags that I can knot tight, because I have seen maggots in corn products that have been left open, moths? The garbage I will burn. There will be riots and looting in the big cities but let's hope it doesn't come to that. We cannot be concerned what others think, each must do as he sees fit, we are not harming anyone. You can fill empty bottles with tap water now and stow them away.

Comment by Heather Gilbert on February 7, 2020 at 19:07

Only other things I thought of today Philip, were facial cleansing pads. They are cheap and they keep, should water  get cut off, They do help with cleansing, and at least feeling fresher. Rolled oats are good too. I prefer oatmeat myself, but what a great excuse  to make biscuits with, if they aren't needed. Going to add a couple of boxes of wine and a bottle of vodka too. Can't think what I can possibly do with those if not needed hahah.

I am making my family laugh with my preparations. I'm laughing too, whilst remembering that he who laughs last, often laughs longest.  I will be more than happy to be the butt of their jokes for years to come, if none of these supplies are needed.  

ps Good idea to have plenty of plastic bags too. Rubbish quickly stinks if there is no refuse collection


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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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