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Kuffarphobia in UK


Kuffarphobia in UK

For all those who are fighting to protect the 4 Freedoms in the UK

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English Defence League   (NB the authority for EDL statements is their website, not 4F)

Stop Islamisation Of Europe (SIOE) which is also on facebook

  • We emerge from the social fog of multiculturalism to see a landscape totally unrecognisable and more dangerous, like coming out of a bomb shelter and seeing the debris - Kinana
  • Unhealthy immigration happens - and they do nothing; integration fails - and they invent multiculturalism; multiculturalism breeds ethnic conflict - and they waste billions patching up a society that's falling apart. They never get to the root of the matter - Philip Smeeton
  • Always attributing incompetence to malice leads to paranoia.  Never attributing incompetence to malice leads to gullibility -Joe

Discussion Forum

Britain First

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Jun 2. 4 Replies

UK Police submitting to mob rule

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake May 28. 4 Replies

Patriotic Alternative

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake May 28. 3 Replies

Why The UK Will Collapse

Started by Joe. Last reply by Antony Oct 16, 2020. 475 Replies

Gold Wars

Started by Joe. Last reply by Alan Lake Jun 11, 2020. 5 Replies

We Stand with the Victims

Started by C J Bernard. Last reply by paul collings Mar 19, 2020. 1 Reply

The Police Will Not Protect You

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Mar 11, 2020. 2 Replies

Islam and Firefighters

Started by Kinana. Last reply by Alan Lake Feb 26, 2020. 24 Replies

Why have the white British left London?

Started by Joe. Last reply by Philip Smeeton Feb 5, 2020. 49 Replies

Brexit and Islam

Started by Kinana. Last reply by Alan Lake Sep 11, 2019. 12 Replies

Hate not Hope: the Pushback Begins

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Kinana Mar 22, 2019. 5 Replies

UK Police: Political Bias & Corruption

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Mar 18, 2019. 3 Replies

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Comment by Philip Smeeton on February 23, 2020 at 16:19

Thanks Joe. Iran has got corona and canada is expected to. Like you say we just have to expect it to come to where we live. Good luck to you all. Fill bottles with water and be sure to obtain a means to boil water if the power fails, and get in some tasty food as well as the staples. Being isolated can be very boring so get in books and things to occupy yourself with. Finding a place where you can go for fresh air walks without meeting people is also necessary. Fortunately I live out of town and as I have said have lots of firewood. It does not look like it is going to spare anyone this virus.

Comment by Joe on February 23, 2020 at 15:31

One must expect the UK to handle this far more incompetently than China.  Our NHS staff will stop turning up for work if they feel they are at risk. 

Many of those who even use the word "coronavirus" on a YouTube video are being demonetized i.e. the corporate fascists ONLY want the official line to be heard. 

Comment by Joe on February 23, 2020 at 15:28

I've been away elsewhere doing a lot of work on the virus outbreak (and also was physically away visitng family).  Was also helping Tommy with information for his upcoming talks in Russia, Germany, Norway, etc.

Coronavirus is as bad as I was saying weeks ago. Italy and Korea are now in states of emergency.  Korea can't work out how their "super spreader" got infected.  In Italy a 38yo man in critical condition now had dinner 3 weeks earlier with a friend who came back from China.

UK has gone from "kiosks" at every hospital (a stupid idea) to "stay away and a doctor will visit and test you" (a better idea but probably won't result in a test).

20% who get this need ICU.  Of those who get ICU as many as 50% will still die.  Of those who don't get ICU --- there's no data for their death rate.

UK has 6 ICU beds per 100,000 people.  Germany has 30.  UK has got fewer ICU beds than Slovakia.

There's every reason to believe this is now circulating in Paris, London, etc.  Whether or not there are cases in ICU yet we don't know (maybe they have a D-Notice in the UK). 

Weeks ago they said that London was the No.1 European city that will suffer an outbreak.  Yet we hear nothing (I have seen video of someone being taken into hospital by staff in hazmat suits -- reputedly Ealing Hospital).

Stock up with stuff so you don't have to leave the house for 30 to 60 days (yes, that's what the best non-establishment authority is saying about this - the guys predictions have been proven right since Jan 24th).  At some point we are likely to need to not go out.

Once this thing has taken root in a handful of countries there's no way to stop everyone getting it.  You need to start looking at how you can help your body fight it, especially if you are over 50.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on February 23, 2020 at 13:53
Diane Abbott to STAND DOWN: Shadow Home Secretary says she won't be in next Labour Cabinet.
One less harmful idiot to deal with. But people like her never resign from power. She's hoping the next leader will need her.
“We have to stand by our principles and stand by our values and make sure we have an immigration policy which is fair and workable.” LOL. Fair to who?
Abbott just confirms my theory that stupid people are too stupid to understand that they are stupid. I think they learn by heart phrases that give an illusion of meaning and then reiterate them endlessly.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on February 23, 2020 at 8:12

-("as" mayors in our cities. Not "some") "as" translates to "som" in Norwegian and I get confused now and then. Som deg= as you.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on February 23, 2020 at 8:03

Good song Tony. We are stupiding ourselves to death. The song "In the year 2525" also says a lot. I do not lose faith though, I am determined to enjoy life in spite of it all. And given the legal chance I would kill the bastards that are offending me.
They cannot tolerate or admit the debt that they owe us Alan these third rate human beings. If they did they would have to admit that white people were OK but then they would have to admire us and that is intolerable to them. And so they retreat into the fantasy that they themselves are somehow superior. Problem is there is no evidence to support the claim. I could name off hand at least a dozen British geniuses that achieved extraordinary things. Add to that the rest of Europe's genius. Nothing compares to it. I admire certain cultures past and present but nothing compares to what we have achieved, and continue to achieve.
There is nothing wrong with you Tony, you are a normal Englishman as I am, it is the insanity on the streets of Britain that is wrong. That is completely and utterly loony, just the way the police behave or who we have installed some mayors in our cities= total insanity. You have to live a good life in spite of it all and take care of yourself. I am very angry about it all and do what I can in my little way to spread sanity.

Comment by Heather Gilbert on February 22, 2020 at 23:42

Tony Ashworth. I have nothing to say. You took my words away, and just gave validity to the emotions I've been experiencing, that made me feel like I was nuts. Way more than that, I just, and don't laugh, spiritually responded to another human being on my wavelength. Thank you so much for what you shared here.

Comment by Alan Lake on February 22, 2020 at 21:05

I think we should return the Koh i Noor diamond to India. But of course, they should also return to us all their railways, trains, bridges, municipal and government buildings, courthouses, police stations, ports, airfields, power stations, dams, clean water and sewerage systems, etc.  We could let them keep their constitution and rule of secular law though, since that only cost the paper it was written on.  But we would also need to bill  them for the military and police force that it took to install that secular democratic society (that they like so much now) over the previous Moghul rule.

Comment by Tony Ashworth on February 22, 2020 at 21:03

Sometimes I think we really are living in some sort of twisted video game. All this shit can't be real can it? It melts my brain comprehending how this world has gone. Where is the reall push back going to come from? When will the end game come? Or is the end game just a huge war where everybody dies and we finally destroy ourselves. Human behaviour lately reminds me of some lyrics from a song called Amused to Death:

We watched the tragedy unfold,
We did as we were told, we bought and sold, 
It was the greatest show on earth!
But then it was over.

We oooed and aaahed,
We drove our racing cars,
We ate our last few jars of caviar,
And somewhere out there in the stars
A keen-eyed look-out spied a flickering light...

...Our last hurrah!

And when they found our shadows,
Grouped around the TV sets,
They ran down every lead,
They repeated every test,
They checked out all the data on their lists, 
And then the alien anthropologists admitted they were still perplexed,

But on eliminating every other reason for our sad demise, 
They logged the only explanation left -

This species has amused itself to death!

No tears to cry no feelings left,
This species has amused itself to death.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on February 22, 2020 at 20:46

The way the British have collected, studied, preserved and publically show objects of historical interest is something the world should be grateful for. Of course Tony the Greeks might take good care of these artefacts, but if we returned everything in safe-keeping in British and European museums to country of origin we in most cases might as well just drive them to the nearest rubbish tip. There are a lot of countries that just do not care about stuff like this, and in the case of Islam, as we have seen,  they see it as their mission to pulverize and burn anything archeological or artistic. We've all seen videos of ISIS blowing up or smashing with sledgehammers irreplaceable ancient works of architecture and art. Most of the stuff, like japanese and chinese art, we bought quite legally and they would have to buy it back at todays prices. 


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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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