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Kuffarphobia in UK


Kuffarphobia in UK

For all those who are fighting to protect the 4 Freedoms in the UK

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Useful Websites

English Defence League   (NB the authority for EDL statements is their website, not 4F)

Stop Islamisation Of Europe (SIOE) which is also on facebook

  • We emerge from the social fog of multiculturalism to see a landscape totally unrecognisable and more dangerous, like coming out of a bomb shelter and seeing the debris - Kinana
  • Unhealthy immigration happens - and they do nothing; integration fails - and they invent multiculturalism; multiculturalism breeds ethnic conflict - and they waste billions patching up a society that's falling apart. They never get to the root of the matter - Philip Smeeton
  • Always attributing incompetence to malice leads to paranoia.  Never attributing incompetence to malice leads to gullibility -Joe

Discussion Forum

Britain First

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Jun 2. 4 Replies

UK Police submitting to mob rule

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake May 28. 4 Replies

Patriotic Alternative

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake May 28. 3 Replies

Why The UK Will Collapse

Started by Joe. Last reply by Antony Oct 16, 2020. 475 Replies

Gold Wars

Started by Joe. Last reply by Alan Lake Jun 11, 2020. 5 Replies

We Stand with the Victims

Started by C J Bernard. Last reply by paul collings Mar 19, 2020. 1 Reply

The Police Will Not Protect You

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Mar 11, 2020. 2 Replies

Islam and Firefighters

Started by Kinana. Last reply by Alan Lake Feb 26, 2020. 24 Replies

Why have the white British left London?

Started by Joe. Last reply by Philip Smeeton Feb 5, 2020. 49 Replies

Brexit and Islam

Started by Kinana. Last reply by Alan Lake Sep 11, 2019. 12 Replies

Hate not Hope: the Pushback Begins

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Kinana Mar 22, 2019. 5 Replies

UK Police: Political Bias & Corruption

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Mar 18, 2019. 3 Replies

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Comment by Kinana on April 4, 2020 at 22:39

"China has unleashed a plague on its own people. It’s too early to say how many in China and other countries will ultimately die for the failures of their country’s state-run microbiology labs, but the human cost will be high."

This author seems to specialise in China issues. 

Comment by Philip Smeeton on April 3, 2020 at 11:31
(Advarer Wuhan om ny smittebølge)
Warns Wuhan about new wave of infection
Residents of the Chinese city of Wuhan, where the corona pandemic started, are asked to stay inside and prepare for a new wave of infection.
The risk of the corona virus reviving in Chinese Wuhan is high, according to Wang Zhongli, leader of the Communist Party.
He therefore urges the roughly 11 million residents of Wuhan to sharpen their infection routines and avoid leaving their homes if possible.
(Innbyggerne i den kinesiske byen Wuhan, hvor coronapandemien startet, bes holde seg inne og forberede seg på en ny smittebølge.
Risikoen for at coronaviruset skal få nytt liv i kinesiske Wuhan er stor, ifølge Wang Zhongli, lederen for det kommunistiske partiet.
Han oppfordrer derfor de om lag 11 millioner innbyggerne som bor i Wuhan om å skjerpe sine smitterutiner og unngå å forlate hjemmet deres om det er mulig.)

Comment by Philip Smeeton on April 3, 2020 at 11:13
"EXPERTS: Coronavirus bats linked to Chinese government LABORATORIES, not wet markets!"
-The most likely explanation has always been that this virus leaked from a biological warfare laboratory in Wuhan.The Chinese do have disgusting eating habits though.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on April 2, 2020 at 17:35

God help us Alan. I have tried to be fair to women, and hate men that physically abuse them. But they really should not be running the world. Fairness is not a set of rigid rules that have to be followed slavishly. They have to be included in as much as possible and as equally as possible.

Women are different to us and these differences have to be understood and taken into account. I have always talked and listened to men, women and children in the same way respectfully as equals. (tried to).

That they are minorities in some sectors is not a problem as long as they are not excluded or discriminated. They should not be forced to be housewives and mothers but those women that want to be professional mothers or carers should be treated with the same respect and rights as any other profession.

I'm just trying to say there are some things women are better at and something men are better at. Quotas are not good in any circumstance.

Why not natural ability and talent deciding? I have always prefered to be a breadwinner, and. an equal partner at home. Women are generally better at child care and caretaking professions. Like someone said you want your firefighters to have the physical strength and courage to break down doors and carry people out.

Comment by Alan Lake on April 2, 2020 at 15:52

A Feminist Government

Sweden has the first feminist government in the world. This means that gender equality is central to the Government’s priorities – in decision-making and resource allocation. A feminist government ensures that a gender equality perspective is brought into policy-making on a broad front, both nationally and internationally. Women and men must have the same power to shape society and their own lives. This is a human right and a matter of democracy and justice. 

Gender equality is also part of the solution to society’s challenges and a matter of course in a modern welfare state – for justice and economic development. The Government’s most important tool for implementing feminist policy is gender mainstreaming, of which gender-responsive budgeting is an important component.

(The official website of the Swedish government).

Maybe there's your answer, Philip.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on April 1, 2020 at 22:32

There ar so many things I find hard to believe these past years Heather, one of the things is Sweden. How could it get so bad, Sweden used to be such a lovely admirably civilised country and now it's a hell hole. It is beyond my understanding. You would have expected more resistance to the change, how did we become so docile in the West? No one resisted when the UN decided we had to open our countries to refugees.

Comment by Heather Gilbert on April 1, 2020 at 21:15

I'm watching Sweden with close interest Philip. Sweden cannot enforce any lockdown and they know it. Far too many no go areas now and far too many feral immigrants who are looking for any excuse to riot. They are an interesting experiment in herding. Shall see if their death rate escalates with allowing people to retain close contact.

Comment by Heather Gilbert on April 1, 2020 at 21:11

Chinese superstition and their nauseating eating habits and spitting habits are beyond disgusting, but you know and I know, that nothing is going to change there.

Comment by Alan Lake on April 1, 2020 at 0:59

Exactly. It's time for the world to get tough on China's breaching of the protected species rules.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on March 31, 2020 at 16:36
Blame the Pangolins, but it's the Chinese that are to blame with their disgusting eating habits and pathetic beliefs in traditional medicine that have all but made extinct pangolins, rinos and tigers.


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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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