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Kuffarphobia in UK


Kuffarphobia in UK

For all those who are fighting to protect the 4 Freedoms in the UK

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Useful Websites

English Defence League   (NB the authority for EDL statements is their website, not 4F)

Stop Islamisation Of Europe (SIOE) which is also on facebook

  • We emerge from the social fog of multiculturalism to see a landscape totally unrecognisable and more dangerous, like coming out of a bomb shelter and seeing the debris - Kinana
  • Unhealthy immigration happens - and they do nothing; integration fails - and they invent multiculturalism; multiculturalism breeds ethnic conflict - and they waste billions patching up a society that's falling apart. They never get to the root of the matter - Philip Smeeton
  • Always attributing incompetence to malice leads to paranoia.  Never attributing incompetence to malice leads to gullibility -Joe

Discussion Forum

Britain First

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Jun 2. 4 Replies

UK Police submitting to mob rule

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake May 28. 4 Replies

Patriotic Alternative

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake May 28. 3 Replies

Why The UK Will Collapse

Started by Joe. Last reply by Antony Oct 16, 2020. 475 Replies

Gold Wars

Started by Joe. Last reply by Alan Lake Jun 11, 2020. 5 Replies

We Stand with the Victims

Started by C J Bernard. Last reply by paul collings Mar 19, 2020. 1 Reply

The Police Will Not Protect You

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Mar 11, 2020. 2 Replies

Islam and Firefighters

Started by Kinana. Last reply by Alan Lake Feb 26, 2020. 24 Replies

Why have the white British left London?

Started by Joe. Last reply by Philip Smeeton Feb 5, 2020. 49 Replies

Brexit and Islam

Started by Kinana. Last reply by Alan Lake Sep 11, 2019. 12 Replies

Hate not Hope: the Pushback Begins

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Kinana Mar 22, 2019. 5 Replies

UK Police: Political Bias & Corruption

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Mar 18, 2019. 3 Replies

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Comment by Alan Lake on April 16, 2020 at 15:28

I'm actually a bit ambivalent about these patriotic songs and messages of purity and goodness. Islam, and other enemies, know exactly how to exploit our sense of fair play, equitable treatment, and due process. They tie us in knots with it, then take-over, pushing us, exhausted, to one side. 

To push back against these neo-fascists, we will have to be a bit less pure, a bit less fair, and a bit less of a stickler for doing things the 'proper' way.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on April 15, 2020 at 14:19
World Health Organization’s Attack on Travel Bans Put Political Correctness Above Saving Livescorrectness-above-saving-lives/
World Health Organization Stopped Medical Experts from Recommending Coronavirus Travel Bans.
- The United Nations and WHO have done more harm than good, especially with their refugee policies, that have resulted in a lower standard of living in developed countries.
England's Green & Pleasant Land.
England did used to be a green and pleasant land, but not anymore.
-Just listen to the voice in this video it made me weep for what is lost.-

Comment by Philip Smeeton on April 14, 2020 at 13:03

It has been so obvious for so long, that as their numbers grow the Muslims will seek power with only one objective. An totalitarian Islamic State governed according to Sharia. With the native minority being presented with the choice of converting to Islam or experiencing a living hell being unleashed on them.
The wonder is that the idiots that will be its victims do not see this Muslim takeover coming. If they did we could all unite in erradicating this threat.
The only answer to these immigrant riots is to introduce a law, that those caught and convicted of causing damage or injury will immediately and permanently lose citizenship and be deported. Having forfeited their rights to citizenship of the State that they are attacking.
There is a spate of muggings of young Norwegians on the Tube trains here now. The perps are of course of African and Muslim descent.
Glad to see you are keeping well Heather.
Britain is going to save a lot of money by ceasing to be a member of the EU, it could also save money by leaving the UN.
I find it useful to compare your nation state to your family home. What sort of people would you not allow into your home and what sort of behaviour would you not tolerate in your home. You could also compare your personal economy to the state economy- because it's your money they are wasting and the people you care about are being threatened by the people that your government allow into your homeland.
This pandemic has left me with a distaste for everything Chinese. They should be universally condemned for their treatment of animals.

Comment by Heather Gilbert on April 14, 2020 at 11:40

The WHO has just announced that China can re-open the Wetmarkets.  Hmmm must be a walloping great backhander from the CCP  That's a lot of cryptocurrency Who needs Swiss bank accounts anymore?  Just think how fast those backhanders can whizz across the dark web when they have their 5g to speed it up. No flies in that lot. Plenty at the Wetmarkets though.

Comment by Heather Gilbert on April 14, 2020 at 10:52

Cannot find your post Philip, but I did read it.  It just dawned on me why Sweden is failing on so many levels. When ideology becomes more important than people, especially a socialist ideology society just collapses. Sweden could not enforce a lockdown even if it wanted to. They present this as democracy with their pretty pics of Swedes dining out at restaurants.  Any reports on how many old people have died in their nursing homes? Any reports on how many Asians and Africans are sick as compared to the indiginous Swedes?  Cramavan will be interesting. I hope Swedish sheep farmers have employed extra shepherds and that China has not bought up all the PPE Sweden is likely to need. 

Comment by Alan Lake on April 14, 2020 at 10:52

Yes, that's a good way of putting it, we need an anti-progressive vaccine.

I just learned that India has built its own Nuclear attack submarine! That's apart from leasing an Akula class sub from Russia, (to learn from, I suppose). And of course, that's on top of its space program, which even we don't have!  Pakistan obviously needs help from us as well, otherwise it might have to divert money from its nuclear missile program, with which they could kick off a nuclear war with India that impacts us all. It's so nice to be caring isn't it? And it doesn't really matter what the long term effects are, as long as you can pat yourself on the back for your moral purity.

I thought it was ridiculous when they put that mandatory foreign aid spending into legislation. What if we are bankrupt? (Which we are actually, just kept afloat by fiat currency for now). Pure do-gooder madness.

Under legislation approved in 2015, the UK government is legally required to spend 0.7% of gross national income on foreign aid.

It reminds me of an interview with Bob Geldof. They told him that something like 90% of all the aid he sent to Ethiopia, was appropriated by the fighting men, so it prolonged the fighting and killing. He replied that he didn't care, as long as just ONE Ethiopian citizen was helped by his relief efforts. 

Now he's someone who definitely needs your anti-progressive-nutcase vaccine, Heather!

Comment by Heather Gilbert on April 14, 2020 at 10:20

Arrrrrrrghhhhhh! Ty for posting this all the same Alan. L.  I've just had a 10 min rant over this. Each of these organisations is so corrupt.  Not sure which of these so called donations has infuriated me the most.  NGO's stand out as one. So we are not only paying for ingrates turning up on our shores, we are actually funding the NGO's to buy the darned boats for them!  How do we begin to win against this sort of money laundering? We need to be vaccinated against psychopaths! 

Comment by Alan Lake on April 13, 2020 at 21:58

Of course, we have to assuage our guilty consciences by sending lots more money abroad in foreign aid, right at the time when we are running the country even further into debt. 

The new UK aid funding of £200 million is broken down as follows: £130 million for the new UN appeal, including: £65 million for the World Health Organization; £20 million for UNICEF; £20 million for the UN Refugee Agency (UNHCR); £15 million for the World Food Programme; and £10 million for the UN Population Fund (UNFPA).

£50 million for the new International Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement appeals.

£20 million for international NGOs, including UK charities, to tackle the virus.

Further details of the funding announced today will be made available in due course.

Today’s announcement brings the total amount of UK aid committed to fight coronavirus to £744 million. This includes: support to develop new vaccines, tests and treatments; humanitarian aid, support for the International Monetary Fund to help mitigate the impact of coronavirus on the world’s most vulnerable countries; and a global hygiene programme with Unilever.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on April 5, 2020 at 9:30
In Reykjavík sits an eccentric 70-year-old scientist Kári Stefánsson, once named one of the world's 100 most influential by Time magazine and referred to as one of the world's most influential researchers on genetics and population groups for the past 20 years.
The (corona) virus has mutated since the outbreak began, and according to Stefánsson, it is now existing in many variants.
- There are findings suggesting that mutation can make the virus more contagious, but it can also be just a coincidence. Now we have so many mutations that we have found 130 that have not been described outside Iceland, he says.
His company deCODE genetics sits on genetic data for the entire population of Iceland, blood samples from 160,000 of them and the health heritage material to 60,000 of them.
- Testing in Iceland has two parts to it. The health care system is doing its thing. They test those in the high risk group or with symptoms. On March 13, we (deCODE) began testing on the general population. Anyone who wanted to could get a free test, says Stefánsson
- The most important lesson you can learn from us is to utilize the resources available. There is a lot of capacity at universities for testing. You have to get every man on deck. Everyone must contribute. If you recruit the universities, it's not just machines and tests, but you make them think creatively, he says.
- Why is no one thinking that way? USA with Stanford, Harvard, Yale, Caltech, MIT. Get them involved in the work. Use emergency laws to find out what's going on, he says.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on April 4, 2020 at 23:30

What we are hearing about China just keeps getting worse Kinana. There is a chance that this virus will eventually kill every human being on the planet. OR one like it at some future date, because these research facilities are not going away. We have always devoted our time to producing ever better weapons, and even medical research with good intentions can go wrong.


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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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