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Kuffarphobia in UK


Kuffarphobia in UK

For all those who are fighting to protect the 4 Freedoms in the UK

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English Defence League   (NB the authority for EDL statements is their website, not 4F)

Stop Islamisation Of Europe (SIOE) which is also on facebook

  • We emerge from the social fog of multiculturalism to see a landscape totally unrecognisable and more dangerous, like coming out of a bomb shelter and seeing the debris - Kinana
  • Unhealthy immigration happens - and they do nothing; integration fails - and they invent multiculturalism; multiculturalism breeds ethnic conflict - and they waste billions patching up a society that's falling apart. They never get to the root of the matter - Philip Smeeton
  • Always attributing incompetence to malice leads to paranoia.  Never attributing incompetence to malice leads to gullibility -Joe

Discussion Forum

Britain First

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Jun 2. 4 Replies

UK Police submitting to mob rule

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake May 28. 4 Replies

Patriotic Alternative

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake May 28. 3 Replies

Why The UK Will Collapse

Started by Joe. Last reply by Antony Oct 16, 2020. 475 Replies

Gold Wars

Started by Joe. Last reply by Alan Lake Jun 11, 2020. 5 Replies

We Stand with the Victims

Started by C J Bernard. Last reply by paul collings Mar 19, 2020. 1 Reply

The Police Will Not Protect You

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Mar 11, 2020. 2 Replies

Islam and Firefighters

Started by Kinana. Last reply by Alan Lake Feb 26, 2020. 24 Replies

Why have the white British left London?

Started by Joe. Last reply by Philip Smeeton Feb 5, 2020. 49 Replies

Brexit and Islam

Started by Kinana. Last reply by Alan Lake Sep 11, 2019. 12 Replies

Hate not Hope: the Pushback Begins

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Kinana Mar 22, 2019. 5 Replies

UK Police: Political Bias & Corruption

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Mar 18, 2019. 3 Replies

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Comment by Alan Lake on March 6, 2020 at 3:57

Coronavirus has mutated into more aggressive disease, say scientists

Coronavirus has evolved into two major lineages and it is possible to be infected with both, a new study shows

Comment by Philip Smeeton on March 5, 2020 at 23:01

I stand corrected Heather, it mutated once. I do not accept though that this was deliberately released, unless a person mentally unstable working in the laboratory did it. There are things we will never know for certain. I do speculate, but I also follow very closely, for very selfish reasons. It terrifies me. I am 74 so....

That Mayor of London has never said anything that was not stupid, he should have been lynched after the Muslim terror attacks. You were right to reprimand your partner, he risks your health as well. I wish you both good health. I have two lovely little grandchildren, but right now I do not want to meet them for fear of infecting them.I am perfectly well but I reckon with the incubation period you can feel well for a week or two, before it hits, and still infect people. If anyone is going to die I would rather it was me.

I doubt if anyone is immune to a new virus, it's like cancer no amount of wealth or power can save you. Anyone that wants to is welcome to gather my data and read my mind and statements. I only fear disease and physical pain, but If I lived in Iran or North Korea I would not be so bold. Living in a "free and democratic" country I say what I mean.

I still find it hard to believe that this is really happening.

Comment by Heather Gilbert on March 5, 2020 at 18:48

There is no evidence that the Corona virus is mutating Philip. It is possible that it will. Mutation can be a good or a bad thing. I have been following this very closely since January. One or two scientist stating this or that, amounts to nothing. Some scientists are thick as two planks really and lack common sense, or are in the payroll of someone who is going to make a pile of money investing in stocks and shares.  My partner is over 60 Has type 1 diabetes and is isimmune compromised in other ways too Shan't bore anyone with the details, so I have an invested interest in following all of the news closely  Much of it is hokum. I can't even get agreement on the size of the coronavirus, and whether it can enter face masks. Still awaiting info on whether freezing can kill it. One think I am sure of, is that this virus has been deliberately spread by the powers that be. If I as a layperson can learn a lot in a relatively short time about how viruses behave, I am staggered that the Mayor of London can say it is safe to travel in the London Underground.  I've just had a furious argument with my partner because he chose to use a bus today. We do have a car. I happily isolate myself. Suits me well to be reclusive, but I guess that does not work for everyone. I think we need to keep our eyes open to what is happening. Perhaps not too wide open, because it seems that the virus enters the eyes fairly readily.  Research has shown that low levels of Vit D stave off respiratory infections in general. I've heard reports from S.Korea that they are successfully treating people with high levels of Vit C but cannot verify whether this is accurate or not. Turmeric is good too. I'm swabbing my nostrils 3 times daily with household bleach mixed in 100 parts water to 1 of bleach. I blow my nose afterwards. Not good to ingest that stuff. // There is no doubt that data is being harvested by search engines, social media etc about how people behave. I fear, perhaps more than succumbing to coronavirus myself, that this info will be used against us for the purposes of the NWO.  Stay safe! 

Comment by Philip Smeeton on March 5, 2020 at 8:57

It is most likely that the Corona virus escaped from a Chinese biological warfare laboratory.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on March 5, 2020 at 8:56

The Corona virus is mutating and becoming more deadly.
(By the way Breitbart is giving good coverage of the Corona crisis.)
(Studie: Coronaviruset har mutert til en aggressiv variant.)
Study: The corona virus has mutated into an aggressive variant.
The coronavirus has evolved into two variants, and it is possible to be infected by both at the same time. One variant appears to be far more aggressive than the other, according to the study by researchers at the University of Beijing and Institut Pasteur in Shanghai
One type, called the S type, appears to cause a mild illness and is less contagious, while the other type, the so-called L type, is spreading rapidly and today accounts for 70 percent of cases in the world, according to researchers.
C and D vitamins. Cod liver oil capsules, fruit and juice!

Comment by Philip Smeeton on March 5, 2020 at 8:26
Comment by Philip Smeeton on February 29, 2020 at 10:28
"Coronavirus map LIVE: UK supermarket products 'selling out' as panicked shoppers stockpile"
Some things are obvious- the food shops will be emptied as panic sets in.
Be aware, there will be riots, looting and arson. Violent crime, muggings and robbery will escalate. This is just human nature in the more primitive amongst us.
Law and the medical services will break down. Most likely the electricity supply and water supply will cease. This is the worst case scenario, but better safe than sorry. Think about how to protect your personal security.
I hope none of this happens but the emptying of food stores is predictable.
Now that Turkey has opened the border into Europe anything can happen. I expect Orban to order border guards to shoot to kill.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on February 28, 2020 at 16:01

A large electronics factory in Norway has closed down because it is dependent on components from China and that source has dried up due to Corona virus.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on February 28, 2020 at 13:26

I bet gold is sold out.

Comment by Joe on February 28, 2020 at 12:36

Dow Jones and S&P have had their fastest falls in history.

In November last year I went to see Tommy to tell him about the Money Bubble and how we are one unforeseen event away from an economic crash.  He didn't seem to take me seriously.

I told him 4 weeks ago: this coronavirus could eclipse all other problems.

People don't yet understand a number of things about this problem. 

1. 20% of the infected need ICU (UK's ICU beds have had no spare capacity for a decade).

2. The tests are unreliable (many false negatives).

3. "Cured" people are getting sick again, sometimes significantly worse than the first infection.

4. If you share a home with an infected person you are going to get it unless you take extreme measures.

Most of this is unknown outside of the 0.00001% of us who have been paying close attention to this.


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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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