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Kuffarphobia in UK

For all those who are fighting to protect the 4 Freedoms in the UK

Search Site: http://4freedoms.ning.com/main/search/search?q=Zuk
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Useful Websites

English Defence League   (NB the authority for EDL statements is their website, not 4F)

https://www.facebook.com/OfficialEnglishDefenceLeague/

http://englishdefenceleague.tumblr.com/

http://edlbackup.com/

www.christianlegalcentre.com

http://www.libertiesalliance.org

Stop Islamisation Of Europe (SIOE) which is also on facebook
http://www.strategicdialogue.org
http://warband.wordpress.com

  • We emerge from the social fog of multiculturalism to see a landscape totally unrecognisable and more dangerous, like coming out of a bomb shelter and seeing the debris - Kinana
  • Unhealthy immigration happens - and they do nothing; integration fails - and they invent multiculturalism; multiculturalism breeds ethnic conflict - and they waste billions patching up a society that's falling apart. They never get to the root of the matter - Philip Smeeton
  • Always attributing incompetence to malice leads to paranoia.  Never attributing incompetence to malice leads to gullibility -Joe

Discussion Forum

Why The UK Will Collapse

Started by Joe. Last reply by Joe on Thursday. 456 Replies

The Persecution of Tommy Robinson

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Nov 6. 125 Replies

Victor Davis Hanson: collected articles

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Oct 22. 14 Replies

The Police Will Not Protect You

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Jul 5. 1 Reply

We Stand with the Victims

Started by C J Bernard Apr 22. 0 Replies

The Dying of Free Speech in the UK

Started by C J Bernard. Last reply by Antony Apr 4. 3 Replies

The EDL and the POTUS

Started by C J Bernard Mar 31. 0 Replies

Billy Bragg, the EDL and that Smile!

Started by C J Bernard Oct 10, 2017. 0 Replies

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Comment by Joe on November 19, 2018 at 20:15

I would hope that only the Remainiacs would refuse to see the true nature of the EU over the last 3 years.  The anti-democracy bullies sent Cameron packing, they haven't moved on iota to Remainer May in the last 2.5 years.  I was astonished when the Tories chose to put cowardly Theresa May into the PM's job when Cameron left.

The spineless Tories are proof why Britain has been going to the dogs for nearly 100 years.

Comment by Alan Lake on November 19, 2018 at 18:51

Finally, there’s no need on Britain’s part for a hard border with Ireland. Britain wouldn’t be imposing tariffs on European goods, so there’s no money to collect. The UK has exactly the same product standards as the Republic, so let’s not pretend you need to check for problems we all know don’t exist. Some changes may be needed but technology allows for smart borders: there was never any need for a Cold War-style Checkpoint Charlie. Irish citizens, of course, have the right to live and work in the UK in an agreement that long predates EU membership.

Of course, the EU might not like this British leap for independence. It might hit out with tariffs and impose burdens on Britain as it does on the US — but WTO rules put a cap on any retaliatory action. The worst it can get? We’re talking levies of an average 4 or 5 per cent. Which would be more than offset by a post-Brexit devaluation of the pound (which would have the added bonus of making British goods more competitive everywhere).

UK officialdom assumes that a deal is vital, which is why so little thought has been put into how Britain might just walk away. Instead, officials have concocted lurid scenarios featuring runs on the pound, gridlock at ports, grounded aircraft, hoarding of medicines and flights of investment. It’s been the pre-referendum Project Fear campaign on steroids. And let’s not forget how employment, investment and economic growth ticked up after the referendum.

As a former prime minister of Australia and a lifelong friend of your country, I would say this: Britain has nothing to lose except the shackles that the EU imposes on it. After the courage shown by its citizens in the referendum, it would be a tragedy if political leaders go wobbly now. Britain’s future has always been global, rather than just with Europe. Like so many of Britain’s admirers, I want to see this great country seize this chance and make the most of it.

Tony Abbott served as Prime Minister of Australia from 2013 to 2015

Comment by Alan Lake on November 19, 2018 at 18:51

Aussie (ex PM) Tony Abbott sums it up beautifully!-----

It’s pretty hard for Britain’s friends, here in Australia, to make sense of the mess that’s being made of Brexit. The referendum result was perhaps the biggest-ever vote of confidence in the United Kingdom, its past and its future. But the British establishment doesn’t seem to share that confidence and instead looks desperate to cut a deal, even if that means staying under the rule of Brussels. Looking at this from abroad, it’s baffling: the country that did the most to bring democracy into the modern world might yet throw away the chance to take charge of its own destiny.

Let’s get one thing straight: a negotiation that you’re not prepared to walk away from is not a negotiation — it’s surrender. It’s all give and no get. When David Cameron tried to renegotiate Britain’s EU membership, he was sent packing because Brussels judged (rightly) that he’d never actually back leaving. And since then, Brussels has made no real concessions to Theresa May because it judges (rightly, it seems) that she’s desperate for whatever deal she can get.

The EU’s palpable desire to punish Britain for leaving vindicates the Brexit project. Its position, now, is that there’s only one ‘deal’ on offer, whereby the UK retains all of the burdens of EU membership but with no say in setting the rules. The EU seems to think that Britain will go along with this because it’s terrified of no deal. Or, to put it another way, terrified of the prospect of its own independence.

But even after two years of fearmongering and vacillation, it’s not too late for robust leadership to deliver the Brexit that people voted for. It’s time for Britain to announce what it will do if the EU can’t make an acceptable offer by March 29 next year — and how it would handle no deal. Freed from EU rules, Britain would automatically revert to world trade, using rules agreed by the World Trade Organization. It works pretty well for Australia. So why on earth would it not work just as well for the world’s fifth-largest economy?

A world trade Brexit lets Britain set its own rules. It can say, right now, that it will not impose any tariff or quota on European produce and would recognise all EU product standards. That means no border controls for goods coming from Europe to Britain. You don’t need to negotiate this: just do it. If Europe knows what’s in its own best interests, it would fully reciprocate in order to maintain entirely free trade and full mutual recognition of standards right across Europe.

Next, the UK should declare that Europeans already living here should have the right to remain permanently — and, of course, become British citizens if they wish. This should be a unilateral offer. Again, you don’t need a deal. You don’t need Michel Barnier’s permission. If Europe knows what’s best for itself, it would likewise allow Britons to stay where they are.

Third, there should continue to be free movement of people from Europe into Britain — but with a few conditions. Only for work, not welfare. And with a foreign worker’s tax on the employer, to make sure anyone coming in would not be displacing British workers.

Fourth, no ‘divorce bill’ whatsoever should be paid to Brussels. The UK government would assume the EU’s property and liabilities in Britain, and the EU would assume Britain’s share of these in Europe. If Britain was getting its fair share, these would balance out; and if Britain wasn’t getting its fair share, it’s the EU that should be paying Britain.

Comment by Tony Ashworth on November 17, 2018 at 14:05
Comment by Antony on November 15, 2018 at 6:53

400 join Brum vigilante mob after losing trust in police - our hostile elite will put more effort into tracking these citizens down than they do on catching grooming gangs,muggers,pimps etc ; https://metro.co.uk/2018/11/14/nearly-400-join-vigilante-mob-after-...

Comment by Joe on November 13, 2018 at 13:57

Even in the (mostly white) suburb where I live, most of the violent crime has victims and perps who are not white.

Comment by Joe on November 13, 2018 at 13:55

A quick reckoning would say that about 10% were British. 

Take out those 10%, and we wouldn't be far wrong to say that the remaining 90% were killed by immigrants.  Maybe half of the British victims were killed by immigrants too.  That would make it close to 95% of the murderers in London being immigrants.  That proportion is probably reflected in all violent crime in London.

The only good point to take from this: London property prices are so high that we can sell our home and buy somewhere nicer and safer and still put half the money in the bank.  

Comment by Tony Ashworth on November 13, 2018 at 0:46

Need we say much on this? Look at the statistics here.

London homicides: The 120 victims of 2018 - BBC News
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-46128268?fbclid=IwAR2O_TsdzBh2T_PuuEg...

Comment by Joe on November 11, 2018 at 16:11

Labour MP lives in social housing with her convicted drug dealer son - whom she gave a job in the House of Commons.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7710726/labour-mp-lives-in-social-hou...

Yep. They're black.

Comment by Joe on November 11, 2018 at 11:32

I watched the recent documentary series about Churchill's bodyguard's autobiography.  Seen from a non-political contemporary of Churchill (the bodyguard disliked Churchill for years) - the series repeats what the bodyguard observed at the time -- in WW1 people from India principally came to fight for Britain in WW1 in order to get Indian independence.  Remember that just after WW1 Gandhi came to Britain as the ONLY non-Muslim in a delegation to get Britain to support the continued existence of the Caliphate.  So Gandhi had no problem with this violent empire, based on massive slavery.  All he resented was the British empire.   

 

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Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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