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Kuffarphobia in UK


Kuffarphobia in UK

For all those who are fighting to protect the 4 Freedoms in the UK

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English Defence League   (NB the authority for EDL statements is their website, not 4F)

Stop Islamisation Of Europe (SIOE) which is also on facebook

  • We emerge from the social fog of multiculturalism to see a landscape totally unrecognisable and more dangerous, like coming out of a bomb shelter and seeing the debris - Kinana
  • Unhealthy immigration happens - and they do nothing; integration fails - and they invent multiculturalism; multiculturalism breeds ethnic conflict - and they waste billions patching up a society that's falling apart. They never get to the root of the matter - Philip Smeeton
  • Always attributing incompetence to malice leads to paranoia.  Never attributing incompetence to malice leads to gullibility -Joe

Discussion Forum

Why The UK Will Collapse

Started by Joe. Last reply by Antony 15 hours ago. 460 Replies

The Persecution of Tommy Robinson

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Feb 13. 128 Replies

Victor Davis Hanson: collected articles

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Jan 11. 16 Replies

Why have the white British left London?

Started by Joe. Last reply by Philip Smeeton Dec 4, 2018. 44 Replies

Racist Attacks on White People

Started by Joe. Last reply by Joe Nov 11, 2018. 103 Replies

The Insanity of Hate Crime Law in the UK

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Kinana Aug 21, 2018. 1 Reply

The Persecution of Jonaya English

Started by Alan Lake Aug 20, 2018. 0 Replies

The Police Will Not Protect You

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Jul 5, 2018. 1 Reply

We Stand with the Victims

Started by C J Bernard Apr 22, 2018. 0 Replies

Conservative Speakers banned from the UK

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Kinana Apr 22, 2018. 7 Replies

The Dying of Free Speech in the UK

Started by C J Bernard. Last reply by Antony Apr 4, 2018. 3 Replies

The EDL and the POTUS

Started by C J Bernard Mar 31, 2018. 0 Replies

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Comment by Philip Smeeton on January 23, 2019 at 9:55

Quite right Alan. The enemy is here and not far away. There should not be one single soldier of ours anywhere else in the world but Britain. The same is true for the other civilised nations. And there should not be one single Muslim here.

Our leaders are our enemies Antony, To compare to the business world; they are guilty of mismanagement and should be replaced. The blame is also on the indifference of the general population. They cannot claim ignorance because the PROBLEM is abundantly clear. I can only assume that they feel powerless. The only hope is that leaders that will rise to the situation come along, right now only a brutal dictatorship could rid us of our problems. The common man has the power if only he would use it, all he has to do at each election is to vote for a nationalist patriot.

Comment by Antony on January 23, 2019 at 6:35

EU Army to combat Nationalism ; - so this was the endgame that people dismissed as "conspiracy theorists" warned of all along - a Globalist's Mercenary force (quite possibly recruited from muslim/african immigrants and leftists)used to suppress the indiginous populution.

Comment by Alan Lake on January 22, 2019 at 23:03

Yes, there's been a fair number of incidents, with consequent instructions to remove uniform when travelling to the UK base. Does it ever occur to military command that perhaps they're fighting the enemy in the wrong country?

Comment by Philip Smeeton on January 22, 2019 at 13:21

First lesson do not be a hero.

When I was in the army in England in the 60's, I used to hitch-hike home in uniform as there were lots of cheerful drivers willing to pick us up.

I remember a number of years back that British soldiers in Britain were advised (or forbidden) to travel or even leave barracks in uniform.

Words fail me as it is difficult to express the disgust I feel about what Britain has become. I feel only impotent rage.

Obviously OBVIOUSLY we should not tolerate all of the insults, terror, violence and crime that indiscriminate immigration has brought us. No civilised nation can tolerate people moving into it that are actively hostile, dangerous and destructive.

The mistake is all of this human rights nonsense that only sees people as individuals and ignores how an ethnic group behaves as a whole. Logically, reasonably and justly every single Muslim and person of African descent should be deported. This would be unjust to some of the individuals in the group, but not to the group in general who's behaviour is far beyond what can be tolerated. It would be just however towards the suffering native British population.

Comment by Alan Lake on January 22, 2019 at 0:14

Its ridiculous. I'd be inclinded to fire a warning shot near those taking photos till they got the message and cleared off.

What they are not telling you, is that he is at serious risk in the UK because we are over-run with jihadis.  He would be safe wandering around in Kenya though.

What a bunch of idiots. They are so full of this SAS-superhero myth that they can't see how cowardly the whole country is, so its not even safe for him to return home from the country he's trying to save!

Comment by Alan Lake on January 21, 2019 at 23:15

Martin Sellner puts it very clearly in the video below. Basically, we abandoned tribalism to found the modern secular egalitarian state, which enabled fantastic advances in technology and commerce, and the highest standard of living the world has ever seen.

Then we let in fundamentally tribalist groups, who reject the authority of the state, and exploit its benefits whilst abusing its tolerance and forgiveness. So now everyone is allowed to go tribal - in fact they will be supported by the state to do this - except white people. In fact, its even worse than that, because every attempt of white people to also form a tribal identity is not just attacked by dumb Leftists, but also crushed by the state and the large corporations.  Thus the white people are left identity-less, leader-less and vulnerable; ready victims for bullying and exploitation by the far stronger tribal groups.

The final part of this story is where the white tribe-less group has become the minority, so does not even have the protection of holding many of the reins of power, like in the police, judiciary, local government, funds allocation, etc. At that point it becomes open season on white people, and they can be abused, tortured, murdered, have their property legally confiscated, have false testimony against them accepted by corrupt judges, etc.  

And of course, all of this will happen while liberals and Leftists in other countries remain silent about this abuse of the 'minority'. The arguement "We must give them special privileges and exemptions because they are a minority" vanishes as soon as that minority is a white one. At that point it becomes "whatever" and a shrug of the shoulders as every new gang rape and murder is reported (and eventually not even reported).

Comment by Philip Smeeton on January 21, 2019 at 13:13

Right Tony, I decided long ago to not have a bad conscience. I am proud of my ancestors. These parasites and criminals of foreign origin that surround us now really are the white man's burden, and always have been. They just do not understand decency, honesty and good behaviour. Rightly they are termed retrogressive.

Comment by Tony Ashworth on January 21, 2019 at 12:41

We were way ahead of our time back then wasnt we Philip. Should of took heed and ramped the volume up 

Comment by Philip Smeeton on January 21, 2019 at 12:34

Of course John Buchan's books should be banned because they might offend someone.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on January 21, 2019 at 12:31

I am reading a book by John Buchan called "Greenmantle" written in 1916, and in it, in the days of Empire, "You are a white man." was a compliment. It meant that you were civilised, intelligent and trustworthy.
"That fellow (Captain Zorn) gave me, the best ‘feel’ of any German I had yet met. He was a white man and I could have worked with him. I liked his stiff chin and steady blue eyes. "
"Gaudian was clearly a good fellow, a white man and a gentleman. I could have worked with him for he belonged to my own totem. "


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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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