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Kuffarphobia in UK


Kuffarphobia in UK

For all those who are fighting to protect the 4 Freedoms in the UK

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Key Info

Useful Websites

English Defence League   (NB the authority for EDL statements is their website, not 4F)

Stop Islamisation Of Europe (SIOE) which is also on facebook

  • We emerge from the social fog of multiculturalism to see a landscape totally unrecognisable and more dangerous, like coming out of a bomb shelter and seeing the debris - Kinana
  • Unhealthy immigration happens - and they do nothing; integration fails - and they invent multiculturalism; multiculturalism breeds ethnic conflict - and they waste billions patching up a society that's falling apart. They never get to the root of the matter - Philip Smeeton
  • Always attributing incompetence to malice leads to paranoia.  Never attributing incompetence to malice leads to gullibility -Joe

Discussion Forum

The Police Will Not Protect You

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Jul 5. 1 Reply

Racist Attacks on White People

Started by Joe. Last reply by Alan Lake Jun 12. 102 Replies

We Stand with the Victims

Started by C J Bernard Apr 22. 0 Replies

The Dying of Free Speech in the UK

Started by C J Bernard. Last reply by Antony Apr 4. 3 Replies

The EDL and the POTUS

Started by C J Bernard Mar 31. 0 Replies

Billy Bragg, the EDL and that Smile!

Started by C J Bernard Oct 10, 2017. 0 Replies

Islam and Firefighters

Started by Kinana. Last reply by Kinana Sep 12, 2017. 22 Replies


Started by Philip Smeeton Aug 30, 2017. 0 Replies

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Comment by Anglo saxon on October 13, 2009 at 23:22
If our country G-D forbid became Islamified everyone would lose all of there freedom Islam is a form of control you live,sleep and die for Allah it is a cult not a religion.
Comment by cimmerian on October 13, 2009 at 23:12
I watched a vid of Birmingham and at one point it showed a group of lefty girls shouting 'Fascist scum!' at the marchers. Those girls probably think of themselves as free, independent, liberated what the hell are they doing supporting an ideology that denies girls education, sticks them in rubbish bags with eye-holes and turns them into baby machines!

Fact is the UAF types have absolutely nothing in common with with the Islamists who are violently opposed to everything socialists believe in. Islamists in Iran, Iraq and Aghanistan happily tortured and killed every Communist and Socialist they could get their hands on. In Thailand they're killing Buddhist schoolteachers ffs!

How can we get the flaming obvious through to the UAF mob? Them supporting Islam makes as much sense as rabbis supporting Hitler.

How about a banner that says: 'WHAT PART OF ISLAMO-FASCISM DO YOU SUPPORT?
Comment by Anglo saxon on October 13, 2009 at 23:10
I was a 1st protest in Birmingham on july 4th we bought the city centre to a stand still and the EDL has grown in size since then and it will carry on growing the more we protest.
Comment by Stop Radical Islam on October 13, 2009 at 22:27
HI all, I became interested in the work being done by the EDL after hearing about the demo in birmingham. I was not sure at first what the EDL stood for, After alot of research and video watching I have learned two things. The EDL will grow and the organisation will make a difference. The media and opposing organisations will soon be shown for stopping free speach.
Comment by tony mould on October 13, 2009 at 20:37
well done in manchester hope to see you at leeds
Comment by leelee on October 13, 2009 at 18:48
well done to all in Manchester. wish I could have got there. Anyone from Kent around?
Comment by Charles morley on October 13, 2009 at 18:18
Hi guys good to see the E.D.L growing anyone from Manchester or the north west region on here . Think we will have to sort some regional e.d.l out so we can meet and make arrangements for promoting the e.d.l in the area. Any footie fans I support Bury fc
Comment by FreedomFry on October 13, 2009 at 17:00
i though newsnight was pretty good to be honest. a lot better than I expected anyway. it was quite funny to hear them speculate about who we are: um, exactly who we say we are. not complicated
Comment by nate on October 13, 2009 at 16:12
i would be interested in hearing from people in my town of Rugby
Comment by nate on October 13, 2009 at 16:11
hi all , been seeing and hearing alot abot EDL took a look and really happy there others like me out there, white black pink! sharia law will take us back to stoneage! women should run the worold in my eyes

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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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