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It takes a nation to protect the nation

Kuffarphobia in UK


Kuffarphobia in UK

For all those who are fighting to protect the 4 Freedoms in the UK

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Key Info

Useful Websites

English Defence League   (NB the authority for EDL statements is their website, not 4F)

Stop Islamisation Of Europe (SIOE) which is also on facebook

  • We emerge from the social fog of multiculturalism to see a landscape totally unrecognisable and more dangerous, like coming out of a bomb shelter and seeing the debris - Kinana
  • Unhealthy immigration happens - and they do nothing; integration fails - and they invent multiculturalism; multiculturalism breeds ethnic conflict - and they waste billions patching up a society that's falling apart. They never get to the root of the matter - Philip Smeeton
  • Always attributing incompetence to malice leads to paranoia.  Never attributing incompetence to malice leads to gullibility -Joe

Discussion Forum

The Persecution of Tommy Robinson

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Nov 6. 125 Replies

Victor Davis Hanson: collected articles

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Oct 22. 14 Replies

The Police Will Not Protect You

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Jul 5. 1 Reply

We Stand with the Victims

Started by C J Bernard Apr 22. 0 Replies

The Dying of Free Speech in the UK

Started by C J Bernard. Last reply by Antony Apr 4. 3 Replies

The EDL and the POTUS

Started by C J Bernard Mar 31. 0 Replies

Billy Bragg, the EDL and that Smile!

Started by C J Bernard Oct 10, 2017. 0 Replies

Islam and Firefighters

Started by Kinana. Last reply by Kinana Sep 12, 2017. 22 Replies

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Comment by road runner on October 15, 2009 at 17:10
we what are witnessing is people confusing patriotism with racism, and that i'm afraid is down to this government, it is not a sin to be a patriot it is not a sin to love your country it is not a sin to stand up and say "yes i'm english" but this government has made it so, and you know why because this government hates everything about our history, it has intentionally changed the very fabric of our society it has crushed the balance what was there, though not perfect but still there. its noot just islam either its everything, anyone now can come here claim everything contribute nothing and bring there mannerisms with them, and there is now talk of giving all the illegals an amnesty and letting them stay, that will bring another tide of misery to our shores and guess what we the tax payer has to pay for them! but who asked us if this is what we wanted who asked us if we wanted to open our borders to all all the scumbags that have come here who dont deserve to be or are wanted here!
Comment by Anglo saxon on October 15, 2009 at 16:38
Islam is a religion of all colours Asian,white and black people so why do the media still say we are racist. We are not against a colour we are against Islamic extremist and the sharia being implemented in this country.
Comment by Anglo saxon on October 15, 2009 at 15:02
Have you heard Morrissey's new song Irish blood,English heart listen too it on youtube.
Comment by James Caine on October 15, 2009 at 13:52
Does anybody else think it's strange that Morrissey is on the list of UAF signatories?
Consider this:
The Smiths - A Rush and a Push and the land is Ours

& also his outspoken support for Israel.
Comment by Netcon on October 15, 2009 at 13:45
do you mean that the admins on the EDL forum should put a sticky to say come over here? I think so, so I'll pass the message on to the EDL administrator.
Comment by Anglo saxon on October 15, 2009 at 12:25
Nice 1 MJ999
Comment by James Caine on October 15, 2009 at 12:02
It's a hoax for sure.
Comment by Anglo saxon on October 15, 2009 at 12:02
I will get the word out to the of the EDL for you i have started inviting EDL members
Comment by road runner on October 15, 2009 at 11:40
cannot believe that there are only 62 peoples have joined this forum and even less contributing, yet the edl forum has 4500 members! EDL do are our members on the forum aware of this networking site?
Comment by Anglo saxon on October 15, 2009 at 11:16
In the Daily Express today Muslims are now demanding:Give us full sharia?

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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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