The 4 Freedoms Library

It takes a nation to protect the nation

Kuffarphobia in UK


Kuffarphobia in UK

For all those who are fighting to protect the 4 Freedoms in the UK

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Useful Websites

English Defence League   (NB the authority for EDL statements is their website, not 4F)

Stop Islamisation Of Europe (SIOE) which is also on facebook

  • We emerge from the social fog of multiculturalism to see a landscape totally unrecognisable and more dangerous, like coming out of a bomb shelter and seeing the debris - Kinana
  • Unhealthy immigration happens - and they do nothing; integration fails - and they invent multiculturalism; multiculturalism breeds ethnic conflict - and they waste billions patching up a society that's falling apart. They never get to the root of the matter - Philip Smeeton
  • Always attributing incompetence to malice leads to paranoia.  Never attributing incompetence to malice leads to gullibility -Joe

Discussion Forum

Hate not Hope release another report

Started by Alan Lake 15 hours ago. 0 Replies

Why The UK Will Collapse

Started by Joe. Last reply by Antony Feb 3. 432 Replies

Is this the end of EDL

Started by Arthur. Last reply by Alan Lake Jan 27. 69 Replies

The State is your Enemy

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Dec 13, 2016. 6 Replies

Choudary, Anjem.

Started by Philip Smeeton. Last reply by Philip Smeeton Aug 23, 2016. 4 Replies

The EDL and the Fascist Experts

Started by Joe. Last reply by Kinana Jul 15, 2016. 59 Replies

Dear Bishop Cocksworth

Started by C J Bernard. Last reply by Alan Lake May 20, 2016. 4 Replies

Why have the white British left London?

Started by Joe. Last reply by Alan Lake May 17, 2016. 41 Replies

The Ideological Iceberg

Started by Joe. Last reply by paul collings Apr 21, 2016. 45 Replies


Started by Joe. Last reply by Gaia Apr 11, 2016. 22 Replies

Dear Mr Blair - A letter from the EDL

Started by C J Bernard. Last reply by paul collings Mar 29, 2016. 1 Reply

A Reply to an Open letter against the EDL

Started by C J Bernard. Last reply by C J Bernard Mar 18, 2016. 1 Reply

The LEP and the EDL

Started by C J Bernard Mar 18, 2016. 0 Replies

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Comment by Antony on January 30, 2017 at 10:03
Comment by Philip Smeeton on January 30, 2017 at 10:01

Mo Farah. Why isn't he living in Somalia and winning medals for Somalia. I would have deported him and his family to Somalia. The question all of these economic migrants should be confronted with is why they are not using their talent and ability to help their own kind. Somalia is a country, a nation, every Somali should be sent back there. Let them sort out their own problems and fix their own country. They have no right to be in our countries and bring their destructive culture with them. I am sick and tired of leftist-liberals holding up so-called well integrated immigrants as examples, while the reality of the situation and the damage done by uncontrolled immigration is ignored.

Comment by Antony on January 30, 2017 at 6:32
Comment by Alan Lake on January 29, 2017 at 21:30

Sir Mo Farah responds to Trump's ban

UK News  2 hours ago
Somalian-born Mo Farah, who moved to Britain when he was eight and later won four gold medals for Britain at the Olympics, has responded to President Trump's travel ban on people from seven Muslim-majority countries. Farah is based in Oregon, but has been training in Ethiopia​.
I don't even know which room to put this crazy news item in: UK, USA or Somalia?
Why is the queen knighting someone who is now resident in the USA?  If he's a US citizen, why is it our problem?  Will he run now for the USA or for the UK?  Its all so mixed up, such a sham, yet not one of the commentators poked holes in this .
I don't even understand where 'home' is?  Why is he not living with his children?  Its a complete dogs dinner of SJW garbage.
Comment by Philip Smeeton on January 28, 2017 at 12:23

"The special relationship based on the bonds of history, of family, kinship and common interests". are empty words when both countries are being divided and destroyed by multiculturalism. If Britain, the United States and European countries lose their European ethnic identities there will be only anarchy and chaos as the rule of law breaks down. Without a clear identity and sense of belonging the citizen will no longer be able to feel any loyalty to the Nation, When a soldier is asked to fight for his kin and country he can only ask who is my kin and what is my nation? Working and contributing to the common good is only an incentive in countries and populations that have a clear national identity.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on January 22, 2017 at 9:06

I was happy to see that the nationalists are trying to put aside their petty differences and to unite in a common cause. It is only through political power that we can achieve our ends. We have to rid ourselves of Islam once and for all, and restore the nation states that have been ravaged by the open borders mentality. Nationalists and patriots unite; Our Nation first, Europe first, our family and culture first. Our soil, our folk. The leaders of the third world have to learn from our example and fix their own houses, we have plenty of their citizens that we can return to them to assist in the building process. When every nation on this planet has a clear identity, a functioning society and a responsible government, only then can we begin to look forward to universal prosperity and peace. The well intentioned socialist meddling has caused ethnic conflict and suffering, not brotherhood and prosperity, we just ain't ready yet for universal idealism and forced unity is never going to work.

Comment by Kinana on January 20, 2017 at 16:15

The moderate Muslims are getting organised!

Upstanding Neighborhoods is exposing the truth. Hear from people telling their personal stories of how ISIS has affected their lives. We are working with young people, activists, bloggers and filmmakers to raise our voices against ISIS.

Comment by Antony on January 18, 2017 at 12:05
Comment by Antony on January 15, 2017 at 16:20
Comment by Philip Smeeton on January 15, 2017 at 11:20

Thanks Alan, the internet has become more unsavoury. People just can't let good things alone.


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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom of Movement
The government can import new voters - except where that changes the political demographics (i.e. electoral fraud by means of immigration)
4. SP Freedom from Over-spending
People should not be charged for government systems which they reject, and which give them no benefit. For example, the government cannot pass a debt burden across generations (25 years).
An additional Freedom from Religion is be deducible by equal application of law: "Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight - except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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