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Kuffarphobia in UK


Kuffarphobia in UK

For all those who are fighting to protect the 4 Freedoms in the UK

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English Defence League   (NB the authority for EDL statements is their website, not 4F)

Stop Islamisation Of Europe (SIOE) which is also on facebook

  • We emerge from the social fog of multiculturalism to see a landscape totally unrecognisable and more dangerous, like coming out of a bomb shelter and seeing the debris - Kinana
  • Unhealthy immigration happens - and they do nothing; integration fails - and they invent multiculturalism; multiculturalism breeds ethnic conflict - and they waste billions patching up a society that's falling apart. They never get to the root of the matter - Philip Smeeton
  • Always attributing incompetence to malice leads to paranoia.  Never attributing incompetence to malice leads to gullibility -Joe

Discussion Forum

Racist Attacks on White People

Started by Joe. Last reply by Alan Lake Sep 22. 87 Replies

Islam and Firefighters

Started by Kinana. Last reply by Kinana Sep 12. 22 Replies


Started by Philip Smeeton Aug 30. 0 Replies

Free Speech Under Attack Again

Started by C J Bernard Apr 23. 0 Replies

Islam: The Religion of Peace Strikes Again

Started by C J Bernard. Last reply by Alan Lake Mar 26. 1 Reply

Why The UK Will Collapse

Started by Joe. Last reply by Antony Feb 3. 432 Replies

Is this the end of EDL

Started by Arthur. Last reply by Alan Lake Jan 27. 69 Replies

The State is your Enemy

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Dec 13, 2016. 6 Replies

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Comment by Alan Lake on December 3, 2017 at 18:27

In an interview with Il Messagero, Tajani said there would be an exodus "of biblical proportions that would be impossible to stop" if Europe failed to confront the problem now:

Why don't we just disband the military then? Since it can't protect us from invading forces?


Writing for the Financial Times, Gideon Rachman explained Europe's predicament:

"One possible reaction for Europe is to accept that migration from the rest of the world is inevitable—and embrace it wholeheartedly. Europe's debt-ridden economies need an injection of youth and dynamism. Who will staff their old-age homes and building sites if not immigrants from the rest of the world?"

Oh yeah, because we're only getting caring individuals and skilled building workers.

Comment by Alan Lake on December 3, 2017 at 18:06

That quote from Apocalypse now is excellent. Of course, ive seen the movie a couple of times, but didn't get the message so clearly.

Comment by Antony on December 3, 2017 at 13:44

"Traditional gender roles" what bunk ! - she is talking as though male and female were just academic constructs rather than evolutionary biology reality.

The effeminization of men is done for a purpose - to render them unfit to fight the invaders and cabal of rulers.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on December 3, 2017 at 13:31

'We are a label-less household': Pink reveals she is raising her children gender neutral... after daughter Willow, six, expressed her desire 'to marry an African woman' (Six Years Old!).
Not directly to do with Islam, but Muslims have everything to gain from this self-destruction of our culture.
You have no sex, are not a boy or girl. You have no race, no culture, no nation, no self.

You are absolutely equal to all and everything and thus morally unassailable.

Label-less!  Horror... Horror has a face...

Apocalypse Now (1979)

Kurtz: I've seen horrors... horrors that you've seen. But you have no right to call me a murderer. You have a right to kill me. You have a right to do that... but you have no right to judge me. It's impossible for words to describe what is necessary to those who do not know what horror means. Horror... Horror has a face... and you must make a friend of horror. Horror and moral terror are your friends. If they are not, then they are enemies to be feared. They are truly enemies!.....

Comment by Antony on December 3, 2017 at 12:00

Europe's migrant crisis - millions more to come ;

Comment by Philip Smeeton on December 1, 2017 at 16:24

 Just one of the enemy.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on December 1, 2017 at 15:54

Kinana, if Trump had been an ordinary Englishman he would have been jailed for hatecrime.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on December 1, 2017 at 15:51

There have to be laws and regulations Antony to limit greed. When allowed to, many will just grab as much money as they can. It's what we voted politicians into power to prevent. As you say the socialists win votes when the capitalist greed is exposed, problem is the socialists want to regulate and ban everything. The good sides of socialism get lost in the socialist greed for power.

Comment by Antony on December 1, 2017 at 14:38

This should gain Corbyn lots of votes - justice still has not been done for all the scams that led to the 2008 crash, Fiat currency, and all the other fiddles that these overpaid parasites work upon the taxpayer ;

Comment by Kinana on December 1, 2017 at 13:25

God help us our enemies are legion.

yes indeed Philip.

I think DT forgets that he is the POTUS and sometimes just wants to be like everyone else and be involved in the discussions. Americans do not take opinions, even from the President, too seriously. It is just part of the noise in the 'public square'.

in the UK and Europe people want and demand perfection from 'leaders' and do not grant them the space to be part of the discussion in a human way, like everyone else.  DT is forcing the discussion in his unpolished way and the media and enemies of an open society do not like it.


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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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