The 4 Freedoms Library

It takes a nation to protect the nation

Kuffarphobia in UK


Kuffarphobia in UK

For all those who are fighting to protect the 4 Freedoms in the UK

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Members: 243
Latest Activity: 3 hours ago

Key Info

Useful Websites

English Defence League   (NB the authority for EDL statements is their website, not 4F)

Stop Islamisation Of Europe (SIOE) which is also on facebook

  • We emerge from the social fog of multiculturalism to see a landscape totally unrecognisable and more dangerous, like coming out of a bomb shelter and seeing the debris - Kinana
  • Unhealthy immigration happens - and they do nothing; integration fails - and they invent multiculturalism; multiculturalism breeds ethnic conflict - and they waste billions patching up a society that's falling apart. They never get to the root of the matter - Philip Smeeton
  • Always attributing incompetence to malice leads to paranoia.  Never attributing incompetence to malice leads to gullibility -Joe

Discussion Forum

Free Speech Under Attack Again

Started by C J Bernard Apr 23. 0 Replies

Islam: The Religion of Peace Strikes Again

Started by C J Bernard. Last reply by Alan Lake Mar 26. 1 Reply

Why The UK Will Collapse

Started by Joe. Last reply by Antony Feb 3. 432 Replies

Is this the end of EDL

Started by Arthur. Last reply by Alan Lake Jan 27. 69 Replies

The State is your Enemy

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Dec 13, 2016. 6 Replies

Choudary, Anjem.

Started by Philip Smeeton. Last reply by Philip Smeeton Aug 23, 2016. 4 Replies

The EDL and the Fascist Experts

Started by Joe. Last reply by Kinana Jul 15, 2016. 59 Replies

Dear Bishop Cocksworth

Started by C J Bernard. Last reply by Alan Lake May 20, 2016. 4 Replies

Why have the white British left London?

Started by Joe. Last reply by Alan Lake May 17, 2016. 41 Replies

The Ideological Iceberg

Started by Joe. Last reply by paul collings Apr 21, 2016. 45 Replies

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Comment by andycqdx on October 16, 2009 at 10:28
Bring back national service that will sort them all out
Comment by Dan Mulholland on October 16, 2009 at 10:26
There is a news story this morning about a British Soldier who had lost an arm and both legs in Agfhan....Mocked and laughed at in the street....the people doin dthings like this needs to be forced to serve!!!!
Comment by andycqdx on October 16, 2009 at 10:23
In sheffield this week a student has been caught urinating on the war memorial in the centre of town his excuse was that he had drunk too much.The authorities should give him a uniform and ship him to the front line.
Comment by road runner on October 16, 2009 at 9:51
hezbollah and hamas uswed to use child suicide bombers who had sever learning difficulties, but you'd never here the leftie luvvies protesting against it just as they wont protest against taliban using children. if they are using children its for the phsychological evect on troops not just in theatre but when they get home, all the lefties calling our boys and girls child killers!
Comment by andycqdx on October 16, 2009 at 9:30
In the paper today it says the taliban are training kids as young as ten to fight against our troops.Is there anything these people wont do
Comment by Stop Radical Islam on October 16, 2009 at 3:30
This is great, just what we needed. A non violent , anti racial , group that is standing up to the radical islam threat. superb. please keep up the good work and I also want to help.
Comment by Netcon on October 16, 2009 at 1:30
you are right. Security is our biggest headache. If you know a bunch of people personally, that you have met, you can create your own room called "James's Room" as a private room, and everything you write in there is private.

Or you can ask one of the other admins to make you the room - ask Kinana or Sam Smith. Please only do it if you think you can fill it with 5 or more friends though.
Comment by Anglo saxon on October 16, 2009 at 0:51
I would like to say thank you to all the like minded people who have joined the EDL room.
Comment by John on October 16, 2009 at 0:32
Well this is a good start. Now where are the 40 million or so other Brits?
Comment by bouddica on October 15, 2009 at 23:37
tries to figure out the nuts and bolts in here ...

Members (243)


Muslim Terrorism Count

Thousands of Deadly Islamic Terror Attacks Since 9/11

Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom of Movement
The government can import new voters - except where that changes the political demographics (i.e. electoral fraud by means of immigration)
4. SP Freedom from Over-spending
People should not be charged for government systems which they reject, and which give them no benefit. For example, the government cannot pass a debt burden across generations (25 years).
An additional Freedom from Religion is be deducible by equal application of law: "Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight - except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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