The 4 Freedoms Library

It takes a nation to protect the nation

Kuffarphobia in UK


Kuffarphobia in UK

For all those who are fighting to protect the 4 Freedoms in the UK

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Members: 243
Latest Activity: 9 hours ago

Key Info

Useful Websites

English Defence League   (NB the authority for EDL statements is their website, not 4F)

Stop Islamisation Of Europe (SIOE) which is also on facebook

  • We emerge from the social fog of multiculturalism to see a landscape totally unrecognisable and more dangerous, like coming out of a bomb shelter and seeing the debris - Kinana
  • Unhealthy immigration happens - and they do nothing; integration fails - and they invent multiculturalism; multiculturalism breeds ethnic conflict - and they waste billions patching up a society that's falling apart. They never get to the root of the matter - Philip Smeeton
  • Always attributing incompetence to malice leads to paranoia.  Never attributing incompetence to malice leads to gullibility -Joe

Discussion Forum

Free Speech Under Attack Again

Started by C J Bernard 10 hours ago. 0 Replies

Islam: The Religion of Peace Strikes Again

Started by C J Bernard. Last reply by Alan Lake Mar 26. 1 Reply

Why The UK Will Collapse

Started by Joe. Last reply by Antony Feb 3. 432 Replies

Is this the end of EDL

Started by Arthur. Last reply by Alan Lake Jan 27. 69 Replies

The State is your Enemy

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Dec 13, 2016. 6 Replies

Choudary, Anjem.

Started by Philip Smeeton. Last reply by Philip Smeeton Aug 23, 2016. 4 Replies

The EDL and the Fascist Experts

Started by Joe. Last reply by Kinana Jul 15, 2016. 59 Replies

Dear Bishop Cocksworth

Started by C J Bernard. Last reply by Alan Lake May 20, 2016. 4 Replies

Why have the white British left London?

Started by Joe. Last reply by Alan Lake May 17, 2016. 41 Replies

The Ideological Iceberg

Started by Joe. Last reply by paul collings Apr 21, 2016. 45 Replies


Started by Joe. Last reply by Gaia Apr 11, 2016. 22 Replies

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Comment by road runner on October 14, 2009 at 22:32
fao sam smith - dont you worry fella people are witnessing the rise of the english, and our celtic brothers and sisters!
Comment by road runner on October 14, 2009 at 22:29
lol herts edl, should one turn up i'll have to get my very "cross" friend. loved that pic fella : )
Comment by leelee on October 14, 2009 at 19:03
well lads I have to say what great comments and points made by all on this site. I've seen the videos of Choudary going on, and what he is saying will just p___s people off. I was also watching a video of our march in Manchester, and in my eyes the most sicking thing i've seen from the UAF was during our 2 min silence for all our brave boys and girls in the armed forces. It was of an English woman shouting Narzi scum, off our streets, during the whole 2 min silence. I mean no matter what there idear of the EDL is, this was for British soilders. That for me shows the sort of people this UAF really are. They should have respected the silence no matter what.
Comment by English Defence League on October 14, 2009 at 18:49
Twat sounds good to me... Shit, were'd that van come from?
Comment by road runner on October 14, 2009 at 17:46
just left a comment on his page, dont know f it will get through their admin though, if a van full of jihadis pull up outide my house i know it did. my eldest daughter also watched it with me her comment on choudry was "twat" couldnt put it better meself.
Comment by road runner on October 14, 2009 at 16:52
its amazing what you can get a drug addict to for a fix. he'll do anything you as long as he gets a hit!
Comment by Anglo saxon on October 14, 2009 at 16:40
Is this the video of the young lad becoming a muslim?
Comment by andycqdx on October 14, 2009 at 16:37
i wonder how many muslims or anyone who follows the islam religion would condem this video
Comment by Anglo saxon on October 14, 2009 at 14:34
Sam Smith If you go into then click on "current affairs" then click on "UK news" scroll down on this page and look for the birmingham islamic roadshow 6/6/09 this video shows Choudary reverting an 11yr old boy to islam in Birmingham i down know how to post video's yet still learning.
Comment by andycqdx on October 14, 2009 at 14:25
what a disgrace that video is surely all that can do is make the edl stronger than ever the more people see it the better

Members (243)


Muslim Terrorism Count

Thousands of Deadly Islamic Terror Attacks Since 9/11

Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom of Movement
The government can import new voters - except where that changes the political demographics (i.e. electoral fraud by means of immigration)
4. SP Freedom from Over-spending
People should not be charged for government systems which they reject, and which give them no benefit. For example, the government cannot pass a debt burden across generations (25 years).
An additional Freedom from Religion is be deducible by equal application of law: "Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight - except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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