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It takes a nation to protect the nation

Kuffarphobia in UK


Kuffarphobia in UK

For all those who are fighting to protect the 4 Freedoms in the UK

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Useful Websites

English Defence League   (NB the authority for EDL statements is their website, not 4F)

Stop Islamisation Of Europe (SIOE) which is also on facebook

  • We emerge from the social fog of multiculturalism to see a landscape totally unrecognisable and more dangerous, like coming out of a bomb shelter and seeing the debris - Kinana
  • Unhealthy immigration happens - and they do nothing; integration fails - and they invent multiculturalism; multiculturalism breeds ethnic conflict - and they waste billions patching up a society that's falling apart. They never get to the root of the matter - Philip Smeeton
  • Always attributing incompetence to malice leads to paranoia.  Never attributing incompetence to malice leads to gullibility -Joe

Discussion Forum

The Persecution of Tommy Robinson

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Nov 6. 125 Replies

Victor Davis Hanson: collected articles

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Oct 22. 14 Replies

The Police Will Not Protect You

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Jul 5. 1 Reply

We Stand with the Victims

Started by C J Bernard Apr 22. 0 Replies

The Dying of Free Speech in the UK

Started by C J Bernard. Last reply by Antony Apr 4. 3 Replies

The EDL and the POTUS

Started by C J Bernard Mar 31. 0 Replies

Billy Bragg, the EDL and that Smile!

Started by C J Bernard Oct 10, 2017. 0 Replies

Islam and Firefighters

Started by Kinana. Last reply by Kinana Sep 12, 2017. 22 Replies

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Comment by Joe on November 3, 2018 at 18:22

Good grief.  This man makes me sound like an optimist.

Comment by Joe on November 3, 2018 at 18:19

The chickens are coming home to roost.

MPs who wouldn't say anything to criticise Muslims or Islam tell Roma they need to adopt to living here.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on October 26, 2018 at 7:26

It is similar to the way the Left refuse to accept that Trump won.

For me when Trump won and when Britain voted to leave the EU I was ecstatic.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on October 26, 2018 at 7:22

With most of our politicians opposed to leaving the EU the outcome is uncertain. Forget about a majority vote deciding anything. Forget Democracy.

The reasonable thing to do would be to accept the result of the referendum and leave the EU. Then if you were opposed to it, start working for a new referendum in say five years time. The remainers are behaving badly.

Comment by Alan Lake on October 25, 2018 at 1:25

This is the bill in parliament which is intended to make Brexit conditional on another vote. Note that you either accept the Brexit deal, or remain in the EU. There is no 3rd option to reject the deal but continue to negotiate withdrawal.

Comment by Tony Ashworth on October 23, 2018 at 13:49
Comment by Antony on October 21, 2018 at 21:28
Comment by Philip Smeeton on October 21, 2018 at 10:38

There should have been thousands demonstrating there.
Which is our main problem, the apathy of ordinary people.
If Britain First had called for violence against Muslims they would have all been locked up. Yet Muslims can call for violence against us with impunity. Had every Muslim that broke the law by inciting to violence been prosecuted, half of them would be locked up in our jails. The only solution is the mass deportation of Muslims.

Comment by Alan Lake on October 20, 2018 at 20:21
Comment by Antony on October 20, 2018 at 14:17

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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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