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Kuffarphobia in UK


Kuffarphobia in UK

For all those who are fighting to protect the 4 Freedoms in the UK

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Useful Websites

English Defence League   (NB the authority for EDL statements is their website, not 4F)

Stop Islamisation Of Europe (SIOE) which is also on facebook

  • We emerge from the social fog of multiculturalism to see a landscape totally unrecognisable and more dangerous, like coming out of a bomb shelter and seeing the debris - Kinana
  • Unhealthy immigration happens - and they do nothing; integration fails - and they invent multiculturalism; multiculturalism breeds ethnic conflict - and they waste billions patching up a society that's falling apart. They never get to the root of the matter - Philip Smeeton
  • Always attributing incompetence to malice leads to paranoia.  Never attributing incompetence to malice leads to gullibility -Joe

Discussion Forum

The Police Will Not Protect You

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Jul 5. 1 Reply

Racist Attacks on White People

Started by Joe. Last reply by Alan Lake Jun 12. 102 Replies

We Stand with the Victims

Started by C J Bernard Apr 22. 0 Replies

The Dying of Free Speech in the UK

Started by C J Bernard. Last reply by Antony Apr 4. 3 Replies

The EDL and the POTUS

Started by C J Bernard Mar 31. 0 Replies

Billy Bragg, the EDL and that Smile!

Started by C J Bernard Oct 10, 2017. 0 Replies

Islam and Firefighters

Started by Kinana. Last reply by Kinana Sep 12, 2017. 22 Replies


Started by Philip Smeeton Aug 30, 2017. 0 Replies

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Comment by NorthEast EDL on October 19, 2009 at 19:38
Cheers Andy. Twas my first video attempt, looking forward to making another :)
Comment by andycqdx on October 19, 2009 at 19:26
just watched it.Youve done a good job there matey
Comment by NorthEast EDL on October 19, 2009 at 19:18
Chuffed my video made the front page on the website :D
Comment by road runner on October 19, 2009 at 16:14
the unions may have their socialist agenda but the actual members are the ones that put the mark on ballot paper, i bet you most of the people who vote bnp, ukip or english democrats belong to a union, bnp is racist, but ukip and english democrats are'nt. the english democrats agenda is no different from ours theirs is a party and ours is a movement. in fact the english dems are having a demo in parliment square on wednesday the 18th november under the banner "english parliment demonstration" yet they are not seen as racist, this is the message we have to get across. the movement needs to attract minorities and the only way we can do that is to disassociate our selves from radicals with-in. their may even be members whose agenda is to stir things up from with-in those who pretend to be part of our movement yet bat for the otherside, which is a typical leftie plow.
Comment by tony mould on October 19, 2009 at 16:05
well said i agree with you are you going to leeds if you are will have a chat cheers
Comment by Brunster on October 19, 2009 at 15:26
I've just been trawling through all of the major Union websites, and the vast majority of them have a hit piece on the EDL and are encouraging their members to protest against us. It would seem that anyone who doesn't think "Islam is the best thing since sliced bread" is labeled a racist or facist.
Most of them have online sample letters for people to send off to complain about this and that and lots of contact emails and tel numbers. Maybe we should have something similar?
Comment by English Defence League on October 19, 2009 at 13:56
well put road rage
Comment by road runner on October 19, 2009 at 12:36
luke hayes - history is littered with battles that we the british have been outnumbered and outgunned, trafalgar, the battle of britain, waterloo, el alamein rourkes drift ect ect ect. but we as briains have this bulldog spirit this can-do will-do attitude. when the chips are down us as britains stand up and be counted. a good example is the falklands who would of thought that a task force could be set up and deployed as quick as it was, travel all the way to the south atlantic and retake those islands by force and our bforces were greatly outnumbered by the argentinians who were being supplied from their mainland. nobody thought it could be done but it was, in the wake of some heavy casualties, it was done it true british fashion out numbered , which makes a victory all sweeter! but as with victories there is sadness. but i hope our sweet victories will not end marred by sadness!
Comment by Anglo saxon on October 19, 2009 at 0:26
Can everyone plz look at this site "" it is sick all about Islamic extremist torturing,bombing and beheading people and much more.
Comment by Anglo saxon on October 19, 2009 at 0:16

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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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