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Kuffarphobia in UK


Kuffarphobia in UK

For all those who are fighting to protect the 4 Freedoms in the UK

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Useful Websites

English Defence League   (NB the authority for EDL statements is their website, not 4F)

Stop Islamisation Of Europe (SIOE) which is also on facebook

  • We emerge from the social fog of multiculturalism to see a landscape totally unrecognisable and more dangerous, like coming out of a bomb shelter and seeing the debris - Kinana
  • Unhealthy immigration happens - and they do nothing; integration fails - and they invent multiculturalism; multiculturalism breeds ethnic conflict - and they waste billions patching up a society that's falling apart. They never get to the root of the matter - Philip Smeeton
  • Always attributing incompetence to malice leads to paranoia.  Never attributing incompetence to malice leads to gullibility -Joe

Discussion Forum

The Persecution of Tommy Robinson

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Kinana Jan 12. 126 Replies

Victor Davis Hanson: collected articles

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Jan 11. 16 Replies

Why The UK Will Collapse

Started by Joe. Last reply by Joe Dec 28, 2018. 457 Replies

Why have the white British left London?

Started by Joe. Last reply by Philip Smeeton Dec 4, 2018. 44 Replies

Racist Attacks on White People

Started by Joe. Last reply by Joe Nov 11, 2018. 103 Replies

The Insanity of Hate Crime Law in the UK

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Kinana Aug 21, 2018. 1 Reply

The Persecution of Jonaya English

Started by Alan Lake Aug 20, 2018. 0 Replies

The Police Will Not Protect You

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Jul 5, 2018. 1 Reply

We Stand with the Victims

Started by C J Bernard Apr 22, 2018. 0 Replies

Conservative Speakers banned from the UK

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Kinana Apr 22, 2018. 7 Replies

The Dying of Free Speech in the UK

Started by C J Bernard. Last reply by Antony Apr 4, 2018. 3 Replies

The EDL and the POTUS

Started by C J Bernard Mar 31, 2018. 0 Replies

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Comment by Heather Gilbert on May 27, 2010 at 14:22
Really good news about Jewish and student branch. Would be great to see a women's branch too:-)
Comment by Alan Lake on May 27, 2010 at 11:37
Hmm. Imagine if that was followed by an EDL demo at the university against gang violence; outside the vice-chancellor's home perhaps?
Comment by Tha Grenadier on May 27, 2010 at 10:19
The Muslims who attacked me in Brighton on the march for England are students at Sussex and Brighton universities, my friends are attempting to ascertain there names.
Comment by Tha Grenadier on May 27, 2010 at 10:16
That is very good news, this is exactly what the Political left scum and Muslims are frightened of, We are not the racists they are and slowly the truth is coming out.
Eventually some of the poor fools who have been taken in by them will start drifting over to us.
Cant happen to soon for me.

Be Bold, Be Proud, Be British.

No Surrender.
Comment by Alan Lake on May 27, 2010 at 2:59
Great news :-) I'd like to have a Jewish speaker at a demo sometime as well.
Comment by Joe on May 27, 2010 at 1:58
EDL has two new divisions in the past week: Jewish Division, and Student Division. We're hoping for the Student Division to report back on jihadist activity across colleges and universities. Depending on what information comes back, then actions may be taken against certain institutions.

The Jewish Division are providing us with much needed intel. They are highly motivated and connected. I believe some are actually also working with 4F.
Comment by OldWarDog on May 19, 2010 at 13:24
I have a plan. Make all outgoing flights to Pakistan 'free'. Make all incoming flights from Pakistan barred.
Comment by Gaia on May 19, 2010 at 13:16
Well said Dave ... and at the same time we have two of our local lads, who are of no danger to anyone, banged up in prison for protesting against the building of a mosque that none of the indigenous locals want!
Comment by Alan Lake on May 8, 2010 at 17:23
I've added the news article & a summary in the Women's room
Comment by Alan Lake on May 8, 2010 at 17:14
Good point. We have the Burka as one of the points of DISCRIMINATION against non-muslims, in the 10-point plan. This issue is not going to go away.

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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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