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It takes a nation to protect the nation

Kuffarphobia in UK


Kuffarphobia in UK

For all those who are fighting to protect the 4 Freedoms in the UK

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Key Info

Useful Websites

English Defence League   (NB the authority for EDL statements is their website, not 4F)

Stop Islamisation Of Europe (SIOE) which is also on facebook

  • We emerge from the social fog of multiculturalism to see a landscape totally unrecognisable and more dangerous, like coming out of a bomb shelter and seeing the debris - Kinana
  • Unhealthy immigration happens - and they do nothing; integration fails - and they invent multiculturalism; multiculturalism breeds ethnic conflict - and they waste billions patching up a society that's falling apart. They never get to the root of the matter - Philip Smeeton
  • Always attributing incompetence to malice leads to paranoia.  Never attributing incompetence to malice leads to gullibility -Joe

Discussion Forum

The Police Will Not Protect You

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Jul 5. 1 Reply

Racist Attacks on White People

Started by Joe. Last reply by Alan Lake Jun 12. 102 Replies

We Stand with the Victims

Started by C J Bernard Apr 22. 0 Replies

The Dying of Free Speech in the UK

Started by C J Bernard. Last reply by Antony Apr 4. 3 Replies

The EDL and the POTUS

Started by C J Bernard Mar 31. 0 Replies

Billy Bragg, the EDL and that Smile!

Started by C J Bernard Oct 10, 2017. 0 Replies

Islam and Firefighters

Started by Kinana. Last reply by Kinana Sep 12, 2017. 22 Replies


Started by Philip Smeeton Aug 30, 2017. 0 Replies

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Comment by James Caine on October 15, 2009 at 12:02
It's a hoax for sure.
Comment by Anglo saxon on October 15, 2009 at 12:02
I will get the word out to the of the EDL for you i have started inviting EDL members
Comment by road runner on October 15, 2009 at 11:40
cannot believe that there are only 62 peoples have joined this forum and even less contributing, yet the edl forum has 4500 members! EDL do are our members on the forum aware of this networking site?
Comment by Anglo saxon on October 15, 2009 at 11:16
In the Daily Express today Muslims are now demanding:Give us full sharia?
Comment by road runner on October 15, 2009 at 11:14
many police stations in pakaistan are under attack from islamic extremists, we all know the consequenses if the pakistain government were to fall, islamic extremists all over the world will be crawling out the woodwork!
Comment by road runner on October 15, 2009 at 10:56
they hate gay people right? well at the next demo we could brandish placards with our most famous gay celebrities, john inman, matt lucas, will young, boy george, george micheal, peter mandelson the list is endlless.
Comment by leelee on October 15, 2009 at 10:25
morning lads, just read the Daily Express. well what can be said, its unbelievable. We need everyone in this country to wake up and see what is happening
Comment by andycqdx on October 15, 2009 at 9:38
when are the people of this country going to wake up maybe this will be the start of bigger things to come !!hopefully!!!
Comment by road runner on October 15, 2009 at 9:17
todays express; it aint gonna happen, not now not ever, not as long as there are are anglo-saxon and celtic hearts on these islands.
Comment by Anglo saxon on October 14, 2009 at 23:11

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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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