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Kuffarphobia in UK


Kuffarphobia in UK

For all those who are fighting to protect the 4 Freedoms in the UK

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English Defence League   (NB the authority for EDL statements is their website, not 4F)

Stop Islamisation Of Europe (SIOE) which is also on facebook

  • We emerge from the social fog of multiculturalism to see a landscape totally unrecognisable and more dangerous, like coming out of a bomb shelter and seeing the debris - Kinana
  • Unhealthy immigration happens - and they do nothing; integration fails - and they invent multiculturalism; multiculturalism breeds ethnic conflict - and they waste billions patching up a society that's falling apart. They never get to the root of the matter - Philip Smeeton
  • Always attributing incompetence to malice leads to paranoia.  Never attributing incompetence to malice leads to gullibility -Joe

Discussion Forum

The Persecution of Tommy Robinson

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake on Monday. 120 Replies

Why The UK Will Collapse

Started by Joe. Last reply by Alan Lake Aug 30. 441 Replies

Victor Davis Hanson: collected articles

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Aug 20. 13 Replies

The Police Will Not Protect You

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Jul 5. 1 Reply

Racist Attacks on White People

Started by Joe. Last reply by Alan Lake Jun 12. 102 Replies

We Stand with the Victims

Started by C J Bernard Apr 22. 0 Replies

The Dying of Free Speech in the UK

Started by C J Bernard. Last reply by Antony Apr 4. 3 Replies

The EDL and the POTUS

Started by C J Bernard Mar 31. 0 Replies

Billy Bragg, the EDL and that Smile!

Started by C J Bernard Oct 10, 2017. 0 Replies

Islam and Firefighters

Started by Kinana. Last reply by Kinana Sep 12, 2017. 22 Replies

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Comment by Gaia on October 12, 2009 at 19:17
and even on the largest anti-Islam blog in Germany - Politically Incorrect:

For our German speakers:

Patriotismus ist kein Rassismus: Unter diesem Motto demonstrierten am Samstag Tausende in Manchester und ignorierten die “Nazi scum – off our streets”-Rufe (Nazi-Abschaum – Weg von unseren Straßen) der englischen Antifa. Überall empören sich argusäugige Beobachter, die EDL-Leute als Fußball-Hooligans sehen und in jedem emporgehobenen Arm einen Hitlergruß erahnen. Alles, um das Anliegen der English Defence League von vornherein mit dem Tabustempel zu behaften.

Daneben zeigen Videoaufnahmen und Fotos von den mitgeführten Transparenten, worum es hier wirklich geht: Um wütende Menschen, die ihr Land vor dem Untergang durch Dhimmitude gepaart mit islamischem Extremismus bewahren wollen.
Comment by We Are The Brits on October 12, 2009 at 19:14
I would suggest that soon, very soon, the issue will not be how the 'Inner Party' deal with us but rather how WE deal with them!

We are the Brits, this is our country and we are taking it back!
Comment by Gaia on October 12, 2009 at 19:09

I notice that the English Defence League, a non Political loose organisation of various people fucked off with militant Muslims in the UK managed to put 1,000 people on the streets on Manchester last weekend and have protests planned in many cities over the next month. I also note that it passed off peacefully.

People power. No fixed agenda, just anger at the 646 who have allowed militant Islam to take hold in the UK- without their consent. The elephant in the room is no longer invisible.

I don't know where this is going exactly, but I do know that the internet, Twitter and Facebook did it. People can now mobilise themselves, without leaders for a common cause. No speeches, no propaganda, no vested interests, no ideological cause. Just anger.

There's a lot of angry people out there. Angry about many things. I suspect this is the beginning of something very, very big. And I'm watching how the Inner Party 646 intend to deal with such outrageous "sedition" from the Proles.

Interesting times
Comment by road runner on October 12, 2009 at 19:06
hate is the weapon of weak minded people, their hatred has now woken the sleeping lions.
kev i think the word movement fits the bill, group indicates small even a large group but a movemnet iis a continuom, it grows it spreads it gets stronger........
Comment by Gaia on October 12, 2009 at 19:06
Bravo to our courageous lads and lassies. In spite of media blackouts, the news is getting out there
Comment by We Are The Brits on October 12, 2009 at 18:59
I think the EDL is doing a great job under great provocation by the left wing media.

Let's face it...the game is up for the uaf, we all know they are a violent left wing funded group who want to silence freedom of speech and freedom of political expression by any means, inclusing violence.....people know who the REAL facists are and it sure isn't the EDl and those who love their country
Comment by road runner on October 12, 2009 at 18:29
just read that article above the falmes of haterd story! is it me or do these people not see what we see, choudary is the problem and all his ilk, being a british christian is to be racist, that the message i'm reading!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by andycqdx on October 12, 2009 at 18:08
Comment by English Defence League on October 12, 2009 at 17:36
Everyone get on the forum and join us. The lion's awake, the beacon's alight and now we march..
Comment by Anglo saxon on October 12, 2009 at 17:33
EDL are growing in numbers and this will continue there was between 800-1000 but there would have been more but police stopped them from joining our protest.

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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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