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Kuffarphobia in UK


Kuffarphobia in UK

For all those who are fighting to protect the 4 Freedoms in the UK

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Members: 243
Latest Activity: 6 hours ago

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Useful Websites

English Defence League   (NB the authority for EDL statements is their website, not 4F)

Stop Islamisation Of Europe (SIOE) which is also on facebook

  • We emerge from the social fog of multiculturalism to see a landscape totally unrecognisable and more dangerous, like coming out of a bomb shelter and seeing the debris - Kinana
  • Unhealthy immigration happens - and they do nothing; integration fails - and they invent multiculturalism; multiculturalism breeds ethnic conflict - and they waste billions patching up a society that's falling apart. They never get to the root of the matter - Philip Smeeton
  • Always attributing incompetence to malice leads to paranoia.  Never attributing incompetence to malice leads to gullibility -Joe

Discussion Forum

Free Speech Under Attack Again

Started by C J Bernard Apr 23. 0 Replies

Islam: The Religion of Peace Strikes Again

Started by C J Bernard. Last reply by Alan Lake Mar 26. 1 Reply

Why The UK Will Collapse

Started by Joe. Last reply by Antony Feb 3. 432 Replies

Is this the end of EDL

Started by Arthur. Last reply by Alan Lake Jan 27. 69 Replies

The State is your Enemy

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Dec 13, 2016. 6 Replies

Choudary, Anjem.

Started by Philip Smeeton. Last reply by Philip Smeeton Aug 23, 2016. 4 Replies

The EDL and the Fascist Experts

Started by Joe. Last reply by Kinana Jul 15, 2016. 59 Replies

Dear Bishop Cocksworth

Started by C J Bernard. Last reply by Alan Lake May 20, 2016. 4 Replies

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Comment by Heather Gilbert 6 hours ago

Alan- Resistance radio. Have asked them where their evidence is. Seems she gave the communist party of iran's address as a reference. Marxist or not, she won't be getting my vote. I should have properly checked my sources though before calling her a Marxist. Point taken.

Comment by Alan Lake 7 hours ago


That just says she's a socialist.  The word Marxist doesn't even appear on the page!

Socialism and Marxism are totally different, Marxism's stated goal is to destroy the capitalist society, but socialism's goal is to keep it, but milk it.  It may unintentionally destroy it, but that's not its intended goal from the outset.

There are numerous references "on the web", to me being all kinds of things which are mutually exclusive and physically impossible.

Please be careful of what is said about people on our side. The left abandoned truth after Alinsky.  Anything is allowed, as long as it can damage or destroy their enemy.  

Their first aim is to damage any hope of you influencing the middle ground people, because they dismiss you automatically due to your tarnished image.  They've done this with Tommy.  Most people just dismiss him out of hand and don't even listen to his words.

Their 2nd aim is to destroy any alliances you may have with people on your own side.  Calling AMW a Marxist falls into this category.  While I'm at it, I'll mention another, related trick.  

The media will always ask you questions about your allies.  If you don't volunteer any negative info, they will then ask if he/she has ever done anything you disagree with, or don't like, or annoyed you in some way, etc.  The media slime will pester you persistently about this unless you tell them to STFU.  But if you finally say as a joke something like "well, I don't like her taste in shoes!" for example, then the sole output from that interview will by something along the lines of "Heather Gilbert trashes AMW's fashion sense ... says she hates her shoe style ... ".  After that, AMW will stop speaking to you, and as far as the Fascist Left are concerned, its job done.

Remember, one day they may come after you!

The only credible source for this claim - until the Media/Left publicly release their famed 'Mind Reading Machine' which secretly lets them know what is going on deep in the mind of all conservatives without even interviewing them -  is something written by her, or an audio/video recording.  You can go to her website and ask her ... or you can continue to believe hearsay.  Marxists don't generally lie about being Marxists, they normally boast about it.

Comment by Alan Lake 7 hours ago

What were Malalas grades? This sounds like positive discrimination, with Oxford seeking to enhance its justice credentials.  Which better qualified, well intentioned applicant got bumped because of her?

Comment by Heather Gilbert 8 hours ago

Alan, there are numerous references to AMW being Marxist/left wing, on the web. Here is just one reference:

Comment by Philip Smeeton 10 hours ago

Malala got into Oxford to study PPE - is she a future British prime minister?

Mindless journalism. The Left want a Muslim Prime Minister.

Meanwhile in Spain:

"Spanish Police Kill 5 Suspects Wearing Bomb Belts After Second Terror Attack South of Barcelona"

A Muslim drives a van into a crowd killing and injuring many. Police shoot 5 Muslims wearing (false?) bomb-vests, they also drove into a crowd. If these bombvests were real they intended to walk into crowded bars and cafes and the death toll would have been in the hundreds.

In American the media is concentrating on Charlotteviille and slandering Trump. In Europe the politicians are saying that we have to learn to live with the terror.

There is only one way to stop the terror and that is to deport every single Muslim, innocent or guilty, because every Muslim is a potential terrorist.

The Left just refuse to understand and those that rule us are feeble-minded cowards. 


And every Muslim is loyal to Islam before any other consideration. They are by association all guilty.

In WWII every German was the enemy, not just fully paid up members of the Nazi Party. Every Muslim is a fully paid up member of Islam.

Comment by Philip Smeeton yesterday

 This sounds more like science fiction than fact. It's like saying it is OK to rape a woman if you give her tranquilizers first. It is wrong to rape and it is wrong to allow Europe to be raped.

The Rape of Europa, by Titian.

Comment by Antony yesterday

Drugs could be used to make people accept migrants ;

Comment by Antony on Wednesday
Comment by Antony on Tuesday

Kai Murros - the coming British civil war ;

Comment by Philip Smeeton on Tuesday

What are we supposed to do Antony? Stay at home and never go out and have an emergency medical kit with us if we are forced to leave home. As Al-Qaeda and the like are asking Muslims to walk into ordinary homes and butcher the inhabitants there is no safe place. A dissatisfied Muslim employee or customer is likely to turn up at any work place and kill people. We have to identify the ethnic groups that are causing all of this disgusting crime and deport every single one of them. It is intolerable that we should be required to learn to live with this. So the extremist racists that are condemned so vehemently seem to me to be the ones that should be in power, and the only ones that can save us. Britain First activists have been acid attacked, I salute them for their bravery. I can see no other solution than to fight extremism with counter-extremism. Tolerance and moderation will not win this war.


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Muslim Terrorism Count

Thousands of Deadly Islamic Terror Attacks Since 9/11

Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom of Movement
The government can import new voters - except where that changes the political demographics (i.e. electoral fraud by means of immigration)
4. SP Freedom from Over-spending
People should not be charged for government systems which they reject, and which give them no benefit. For example, the government cannot pass a debt burden across generations (25 years).
An additional Freedom from Religion is be deducible by equal application of law: "Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight - except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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