The 4 Freedoms Library

It takes a nation to protect the nation

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UN & EU Room

For tracking suppression of the 4 Freedoms within the UN, EU and other international organisations

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Latest Activity: 18 hours ago

Key Info

Cairo Declaration of Human Rights   (supercedes the UN declaration)
UN bans criticism of Islam

Discussion Forum

Islam Conquers European Football

Started by Kinana Apr 10, 2012. 0 Replies

Eurabia - the evidence

Started by Joe Apr 5, 2012. 0 Replies

UNHRC Silences Critics of Islamic Extremism

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Jan 25, 2012. 6 Replies

Multicultural Europe? - by Martyn Bond

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by paul collings Jun 21, 2011. 1 Reply

on Islamophobia, by Valentina Colombo

Started by Indoeuropean Mar 13, 2011. 0 Replies

Egypt - Muslim Brotherhood takes over.

Started by John Sobieski. Last reply by John Sobieski Feb 27, 2011. 2 Replies

Arab Charter of Human Rights (2004)

Started by Indoeuropean Jan 15, 2011. 0 Replies

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Comment by Alan Lake 18 hours ago

260,000 Austrians sign EU exit petition, forcing referendum debate in parliament

http://rt.com/news/271279-austria-petition-eu-exit/

Eurosceptic Italian party delivers 200,000-signature petition for exiting euro

http://rt.com/news/266005-italy-anti-euro-petition/

Comment by Alan Lake 18 hours ago

Airbus has signed a deal for its second factory in China, further expanding its growing relationship with the world's second largest economy.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-33375915

I see.  So just when Greece is collapsing due to it not producing enough marketable goods, we are starting to move one of the EU's few areas of market dominance to China?  So they can produce the jumbos more cheaply?  So the elite can jet off to their holidays more often at less cost? Crazy.

Comment by Alan Lake on May 9, 2015 at 23:41

UAE, the first Arab country without visa in the Schengen area

Sounds like heaven for terrorists.  Thank God we aren't in the Schengen area.

http://www.euronews.com/2015/05/07/uae-the-first-arab-country-witho...

Comment by Alan Lake on December 3, 2014 at 1:38

Gravy train: Retired EU president Van Rompuy gets a whopping $600k+ payoff

http://rt.com/news/210779-retired-rompuy-allowance-eu/

Comment by Joe on February 9, 2014 at 19:05
Comment by Alan Lake on October 13, 2013 at 8:02
Comment by Alan Lake on July 31, 2013 at 2:15

The big suprise for me in this article was that Human Rights Watch (HRW) has a budget of $50m /year.

http://www.meforum.org/3564/human-rights-watch

It reminds me of the comment by Westmoreland in King Henry 5th at Agincourt: "O that we now had here But one ten thousand of those men in England That do no work to-day!"

We should say:  "O that we had but one ten thousandth of the budget of the HRW, that do no work for human rights any day!"

Comment by Joe on April 22, 2012 at 10:16
Comment by Joe on January 17, 2012 at 16:36

http://blog.curry.com/stories/2012/01/16/sopaIsARedHerring.html

There are various new laws being discussed in the US, concerned (superficially) with stamping down on computer piracy, intellectual property abuses, etc.  We also know that the OIC are aiming to get the UN, US & EU to make criticism of islam illegal.  

These laws around "copyright" could prove far more effective at closing down many/most counter-jihad websites.

It is really something people should be watching out for.  Laws are often introduced for one purpose, but end up being used for another.  For example, the ASBOs in Britain were meant to stop noisy neighbours or gangs of drunken youths from disturbing people in their homes.  Instead they have been used to ban EDL and even left-wing demonstrators from e.g. going into Parliament Square for 10 years.

Comment by Albert on March 28, 2011 at 8:23
 

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Muslim Terrorism Count

Thousands of Deadly Islamic Terror Attacks Since 9/11

Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So 4F has categorised a subset of its depredations in a way that allows principal information to be retrieved for argument.  

We need to capture this information because it is slowly being removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But they also require - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to police these vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Religion
Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight - except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)
4. SP Freedom from Electoral Fraud
The import of new voters by immigration is only allowed if it can be shown not to favour any political party

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