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It takes a nation to protect the nation

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Well, their Islam appeasing, Muslim background president and the new $100 million, 13 story super mosque that's been approved on a site just a stones throw from the World Trade Centre are sure signs that they're losing the fight.

I can't believe they've approved a super mosque in the shadow of ground zero. What an appauling insult to the victims of Islamic terror.

Or they could build the mosque on the condition that every bit of teaching which may be taken to encourage or endorse the bombing of the twin towers, is removed from their scriptures, and the interior is monitored & recorded by video & audio feeds.
Or, they build it, fill it up to the gunnels and then fly a plane into it. See how they like their own medicine.
Oh, I LIKE Mr. Patriot... will be sharing.

The 13 story mosque may help us - it has created outrage around the nation. People who have never written letters are now doing so. This and our idiodic Administration may work in concert to turn public opinion (ok, first wake the people up, then channel their attention) to some truths... islam wants to subjugate the world to sharia, the big lie is in fact a lie ("r.o.p."), the media is worse than useless, O and his minions are leftist islamophiles, and without redirection America will just be a bigger Greece.

My money is on the American people and truth. The marxist-progressive left and the perpetual jihad war machine will go down in flames.
US Citizen, Patriot
America stopped defending itself against islam a long time ago, more precisely since Eisenhower.

Dwight D. Eisenhower

The 1953 Iranian coup d'état, on August 19, 1953, was the overthrow of the democratically-elected government of Iranian Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh by the United States' Central Intelligence Agency. The crushing of Iran's first democratically elected government launched 25 years of dictatorship under Mohammad-Rezā Shāh Pahlavi, who relied heavily on U.S.-trained secret police SAVAK and U.S.-supplied weapons to hold on to power until he was overthrown in February 1979


In the early months of 1958, rebellion began to break out in one part of the Indonesian island chain, then another. CIA pilots took to the air to carry out bombing and strafing missions in support of the rebels. In Washington, Col. Alex Kawilarung, the Indonesian military attaché, was persuaded by the Agency to "defect". He soon showed up in Indonesia to take charge of the rebel forces. Yet, as the fighting dragged on into spring, the insurgents proved unable to win decisive victories or take the offensive, although the CIA bombing raids were taking their toll.

Sukarno later claimed that on a Sunday morning in April, a plane bombed a ship in the harbor of the island of Ambon-all those aboard losing their lives-as well as hitting a church, which demolished the building and killed everyone inside He stated that 700 casualties had resulted from this single run.

On 15 May, a CIA plane bombed the Ambon marketplace, killing a large number of civilians on their way to church on Ascension Thursday.

John F. Kennedy

In 1963, the Kennedy administration backed a coup against the government of Iraq headed by General Abdel Karim Kassem, who five years earlier had deposed the Western-allied Iraqi monarchy. The CIA helped the new Ba'ath Party government led by Abdul Salam Arif in ridding the country of suspected leftists and Communists. In a Ba'athist coup, the government used lists of suspected Communists and other leftists provided by the CIA, to systematically murder untold numbers of Iraq's educated elite—killings in which Saddam Hussein himself is said to have participated. The victims included hundreds of doctors, teachers, technicians, lawyers, and other professionals as well as military and political figures.

According to an op-ed in the New York Times, the U.S. sent arms to the new regime, weapons later used against the same Kurdish insurgents the U.S. supported against Kassem and then abandoned him

Lyndon B. Johnson

Both in 1958 and in 1965, the CIA directly interfered in the internal affairs of Indonesia. In 1958, this monstrous action led to civil war. In 1965, it led to the ultimate takeover by a pro-Amencan military regime, while hundreds of thousands of innocent peasants and loyal citizens were massacred in the name of this insane crusade against international communism.

. American companies and aggressive foreign interests are indiscriminately plundering the natural riches of Indonesia to the advantage of the few and the disadvantage of the millions of unemployed and impoverished masses.

" four months, five times as many people died in Indonesia as in Vietnam in twelve years." -- Bertrand Russell, 1966

The U.S. government played a significant role in one of the worst massacres of the century by supplying the names of thousands of Communist Party leaders to the Indonesian army, which hunted down the leftists and killed them, . For the first time, U.S. officials acknowledge that in 1965 they systematically compiled comprehensive lists of Communist operatives, from top echelons down to village cadres. As many as 5,000 names were furnished to the Indonesian army, and the Americans later checked off the names of those who had been killed or captured

Richard Nixon

The United States supported Pakistan both politically and materially, during the Indo-Pakistani War of 1971, also Pakistan,s invasion of Bangladesh Leading to the death of 3,000,000 and more than 200.000 women raped.

Gerald Ford

Indonesia occupied East Timor from December 1975 Immediately after the invasion, the United Nations General Assembly and Security Council passed resolutions condemning Indonesia's actions and calling for immediate withdrawal. The governments of the United States, Australia, and United Kingdom were supportive of Indonesia throughout the occupation. U.S.

President Gerald Ford and Secretary of State Henry Kissinger met with Indonesian President Suharto on the day before the invasion and reportedly gave their approval for the invasion Although precise numbers are difficult to determine, the number of East Timorese killed during the occupation is likely between 103,000 and 145,000 people. The 2005 report of the UN's Commission for Reception, Truth and Reconciliation in East Timor reports a figure of at least 102,800: 18,600 unlawful executions and 84,200 starvation deaths

Jimmy Carter

According to the official version of history, CIA aid to the Mujahadeen began during 1980, that is to say, after the Soviet army invaded Afghanistan, 24 Dec 1979. But the reality, secretly guarded until now, is completely otherwise: Indeed, it was July 3, 1979 that President Carter signed the first directive for secret aid to the opponents of the pro-Soviet regime in Kabul.

Cowboy Ronnie

Reagan's record toward Islam was not impressive, notably his 1983 retreat from Beirut and his administration's 1985-86 arms transfers to Tehran

During Reagan’s 8 years in power, the CIA secretly sent billions of dollars of military aid to the mujahedeen in Afghanistan in a US-supported jihad against the Soviet Union

George H. W. Bush

On August 1, 1990, Iraq, led by Saddam Hussein, invaded its oil-rich neighbor to the south, Kuwait; Secretary of Defense Richard Bruce "Dick" Cheney traveled to Saudi Arabia to meet with King Fahd; Fahd requested US military aid in the matter, fearing a possible invasion of his country as well, so Bush helped his Saudi buddy

How much money has flowed from the House of Saud to the Bush family and its friends and allies over the years? No one will ever know -- but the number is at least $1.477 billion.

Bill Clinton


Bombs rain down on Serbia

George W. Bush

"Islam is a noble faith"
this was the beginning of the USMC and the " Shores of Tripoli" came from....
JuniperSage said:
this was the beginning of the USMC and the " Shores of Tripoli" came from....

Yes I am quite aware of this hymn, but it did not come from the Barbary wars as many american anti-jihadis would like us to believe would

The line "To the shores of Tripoli" refer to the First Barbary War, and specifically the Battle of Derne in 1805.. "The Halls of Montezuma" refers to the Battle of Chapultepec, during the Mexican-American War, where a force of Marines stormed Chapultepec Castle.

The words date from the 19th century, the author of the song itself is unknown. Anecdotal evidence supposes it was penned by a Marine on duty in Mexico. The unknown author transposed the phrases in the motto on the Colors so that the first two lines of the Hymn would read: "From the Halls of Montezuma, to the Shores of Tripoli," favoring euphony over chronology.

The music is from the Gendarmes' Duet from the opera Geneviève de Brabant by Jacques Offenbach, which debuted in Paris in 1859.

Any way I do not want to appear America bashing, just pointing out that that America has, the same as Britain aided the advancement of islam.

There is many a time I am shocked when searching for different facts, and see how much our respective nations have aided the Islamic world.
I would like to add

On 10 November 1775, the Naval Committee was directed by Congress to raise two marine battalions at the Continental expense. Also, Congress decided the marines will not only be used for the Nova Scotia expedition but for subsequent service thereafter. Henceforth, the Naval Committee established a network of appointments for offices; paymaster, commissions, procurements, equipment, etc., for establishing a future national corps of marines. The United States Marine Corps still celebrates 10 November, as its official birthday

The Marines' most famous action of this period occurred in the First Barbary War (1801–1805) against the Barbary pirates, when William Eaton and First Lieutenant Presley O'Bannon led a group of eight Marines and 300 Arab and European mercenaries in an attempt to capture Tripoli. Though they only made it as far as Derne, Tripoli has been immortalized in the Marines' Hymn. The Ottoman viceroy, Prince Hamet Karamanli was so impressed with the Marines that on December 8, 1804, he presented a Mameluke sword to O'Bannon inscribed in memory of the Battle of Tripoli Harbor, a tradition continued today by the swords worn by Marine officers.
WND reported last year that President Obama had thanked Muslims for “building the very fabric of our nation” and claiming they were in part responsible for “the core of our democracy.”

But his comments didn’t align with statements from some of the Founders.

For example, in 1801, President Jefferson sent the Navy to the Barbary Coast to stop Islamic pirates’ reign of terror on U.S. merchant ships. Jefferson read the Quran to understand what was motivating the pirates, and he learned that the Muslim holy book commanded the faithful to “plunder and enslave” non-Muslims.

In 1814, after Tripoli broke its truce and began attacking U.S. ships again, former President John Adams wrote Jefferson a letter advising that Islam’s founder was “a military fanatic.” In another writing, he condemned Islamic law as “contemptible.”

His son and future president, John Quincy Adams, went further, arguing that the essence of Islam is “violence and lust: to exalt the brutal over the spiritual part of human nature.” He suggested the Quran’s commands to fight and conquer other lands “in the cause of Allah” were at odds with democracy, peace and the Judeo-Christian ethic on which America was founded.

“The precept of the Koran is perpetual war against all who deny that Muhammad is the prophet of God,” he added. “The vanquished may purchase their lives by the payment of tribute; the victorious may be appeased by a false and delusive promise of peace; and the faithful follower of the prophet may submit to the imperious necessities of defeat: but the command to propagate the Muslim creed by the sword is always obligatory, when it can be made effective. The commands of the prophet may be performed alike by fraud or by force.”

This is nothing for Obama to worry about, after all, he has an phalanx of state funded Secret Service agents to keep him safe.

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