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Women Victims

To protect women and society from abuse which is ideologically authorised, i.e. Honor Killings, Forced Marriage, Bigamy, Legal Sub-status, and Face Covering

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UK Taxi Rapes

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The Result of Egypt's "Revolution" For Women

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Niqab-wearing Muslim waves Union Flag shock!

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Comment by Philip Smeeton on October 14, 2014 at 12:45

Muslims can't keep their hands off women, so they blame the woman and punish her. Because the man is only doing what is natural, then according to the warped Muslim reasoning, it is the rape victim's fault for tempting the man, simply because she is a woman.
A Muslim that sins cannot enter paradise so the rules say that whatever he does it is not a sin because someone else is always to blame.

Comment by Antony on October 14, 2014 at 10:29
Comment by Philip Smeeton on September 30, 2014 at 9:53

In Iran a woman will be given a death sentence for defending herself against a rapist. Under Islam the principle of justifiable homicide only applies to the murder of women, bad Muslims and non-Muslims.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on September 24, 2014 at 13:40

It is gender discrimination that was banned. Headscarves are a signal that women are treated as second class citizens under Islam.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on September 9, 2014 at 9:26
Comment by Philip Smeeton on August 31, 2014 at 15:49

-Political Islamic movements were gaining ground too, most notably the Muslim Brotherhood. Soon all the adult women in my family were wearing the headscarf or the hijab.-

Muslim women say that they have a choice but they don't really. When strict Muslims take over, as they do, then it would be dangerous for a woman not to cover herself. Islamists cannot accept a woman as free or equal.

Enforcement by violence is the Muslim method.

In the period when some Muslim countries were liberal some women could follow Western fashion. So religion and its contempt for women has everything to do with headscarves and veils.

I pity the liberated women of Turkey right now, they are facing a grim future.

Apart from that renouncing Islam carries a death sentence, most Muslims are unable to leave Islam out of fear for divine punishment.

Comment by Antony on August 23, 2014 at 8:47
Comment by Alan Lake on August 22, 2014 at 6:52

Of course, if anyone else had said they were abused or attacked, it would be reported as "alleged".  You even see that word used when a video clearly shows the person committing the act of violence.  But if the master race of Islam makes an allegation, it is automatically accepted as true without query.  Belinda Goldsmith and Olivia Harris are just being good Dhimmis, I guess.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on August 21, 2014 at 15:35

Does anyone still believe in integration?

Muslim women choose to cover themselves (and accept their status as second class human beings) of their own free will, and as a response to the unjust emnity shown towards then by the unclean (those that suffer contempt and violence from Muslims) native British.


"Sometimes you forget that you're covering your hair but you never forget why you're covering. You remember, that to you, your character should be more important than your appearance.

"It makes it easier for Muslim women to keep away from things that you don't want to do that would impact your value system. If you don't want to go clubbing, drink, or have relations outside marriage, it can help, but it can also just be a reminder to be a good person and treat others well."

The more terror that is spread worldwide in the name of Islam, the stronger becomes the Muslim sense of identity.

The genius of Islam is to attack and murder people and then to assume the role of the victim and persecuted, then to believe that this fiction is actually true.

“He said it was surprising but reassuring that the rise in violence against Muslim women had been accompanied by a rise in the number of women adopting the veil.”

“This approach to adopting the hijab with a view to being identifiably Muslim was typical in Muslim minority nations but not in countries where Muslims are in the majority.”- I had to laugh at this statement.

"This does contradict the view dominant in non-Muslim countries in the West that the female scarf is a symbol of religious fundamentalism and patriarchal oppression."- well of course it is, only a Muslim or a leftist liberal would believe that this has nothing to do with gender discrimination or that the veil is only a symbolic fashion statement.

A soggy minded PhD claims that Muslim men are not forcing women to cover themselves, then uses a non-practicing Muslim male, that just doesn’t care, as an example.

Freedom of choice?

Comment by Antony on August 6, 2014 at 11:34

Muslim Terrorism Count

Thousands of Deadly Islamic Terror Attacks Since 9/11

Mission Overview

The two current threats to Secular Democracy (SD) of Islam and Debt arise due to fundamental vulnerabilities in its constitution. Hence the 4 Freedoms definitions give 4 corrections to that ideology.

We have little expectation of those corrections being implemented, because SD rests on an even more fundamental fallacy, that:
The 'open marketplace' of ideas driven by rational self interest will lead to ideological well being - in the same way that Adam Smith's free market of prices leads to economic well being.

But ideological faction is not comparable with economic grouping, because the rational self interest of ideological actors performs differently to that of economic actors. Consequently, the open society of SD, will succumb gradually to any strong, unified gang, of which, Islam is one example.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks; nor to read them; nor even to record them, so 4F gives only a sample view of how far it has advanced and by what methods. We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and will force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow Muslims the possibility of escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These freedoms protect against four vulnerabilities in standard definitions of democracy.
1. Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of free speech and democracy
2. Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed -except one advocating the end of free speech and democracy
3. Freedom from Religious Intrusion
Religion & culture operate freely in the private sphere, but are regulated by law in the public sphere
4. Freedom from Debt
The electorate is not allowed to live off debt and dump it on the next generation

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