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To protect women and society from abuse which is ideologically authorised, i.e. Honor Killings, Forced Marriage, Bigamy, Legal Sub-status, and Face Covering

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Femen - Collected Articles

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UK Taxi Rapes

Started by Kinana. Last reply by Kinana Oct 22, 2014. 3 Replies

BBC report on FGM

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Jul 24, 2014. 12 Replies

One Law for All - collected articles

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Gulnaz: the Afghan woman forced to marry her rapist

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Apr 19, 2014. 1 Reply

Honour Killings - collected articles

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Joe Mar 21, 2014. 2 Replies

The Result of Egypt's "Revolution" For Women

Started by Paul Austin Murphy Nov 18, 2013. 0 Replies

Niqab-wearing Muslim waves Union Flag shock!

Started by Paul Austin Murphy. Last reply by Antony Oct 1, 2013. 13 Replies

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Comment by Philip Smeeton on April 16, 2015 at 13:53

And hundreds of sex slaves in Rotherham and elsewhere.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11391314/Rotherham-chi...

Ask an imam what gender equality and human rights are, and if slavery is acceptable.

Comment by Antony on April 16, 2015 at 8:36
Comment by Philip Smeeton on April 2, 2015 at 11:20
Comment by Alan Lake on March 27, 2015 at 11:12

If all this was taking place in a vacuum, then what you say would apply.

But this is taking place in a legal framework that now clearly discriminates against women.  Polygamy is alive and well in the UK, but Polyandry is non existent.  The woman has been objectified to being an assett acquired, as it was thousands of years ago, yet we hear nothing from the feminists.  Germain Greer and her like, are cheap, cowardly frauds.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on March 26, 2015 at 8:30

"What a bunch of cowardly shits." Amen.

Actually marriage has no meaning for me. Those that will, can sign formal legally binding partnership contracts. I have two children and have never been married. I was required to sign a form (voluntarily?) acknowledging fathership. I assume to give me parental rights. here people living together that declare themselves to be "samboer" have the same legal rights as those that are formally married.  A marriage contract, I assume is to do with parentage, property rights, and economic responsibility? I haven't thought about it much, just been a father and paid my due.

So how many contracts individuals make with each other is up to them. Financial responsibility is the key issue, then taking responsibility for any offspring, and taking financial responsibility for the number of spouses (male or female) that you formally contract to support emotionally and financially. Let the religious debate marriage. My concern is taking emotional and economic responsibility for near relationships such as family, (blood-related or adopted).

What the lawyers and feminists should be concerned about is abuse. Physical, sexual, emotional and financial abuse.

An unemployed man with three wives and twenty-one children -sounds very expensive to the tax-payer.

Comment by Alan Lake on March 25, 2015 at 15:06

I stumbled on these gems of loss of women's rights - but don't expect the dumb feminists to be agitating over them anytime soon.  Nope, instead you'll see them at the barricades defending the hijab and burqa, because it "empowers" the Muslim woman and validates her cultural identity. What a bunch of cowardly shits.

Does England recognise my polygamous marriage?

It may do, presuming it occurred outside the United Kingdom and dependent upon a number of factors.­ The wedding must have been in accordance with the formalities of local law.­ If it is an actual polygamous marriage (not a potentially polygamous marriage which is one where one spouse may later take another spouse), neither can have been domiciled in England at the time of the marriage.­ English public policy is to recognise genuine polygamous marriages entered into abroad in a country which permits polygamy.­ There are technical rules on recognition.­ Bigamy, even accepted by the other spouse, is not polygamy.

Predictably, the welfare benefit agencies quickly acknowledge polygamous marriages if it means they can pass on responsibility for support to a spouse.­ There can be complicated issues of succession and legitimacy.­ Specialist advice is essential.­ Nationality and tax rules generally apply as to a monogamous marriage.

Yes, but that passing on responsibility of support only applies if the husband is working.  If he's already on benefits, the extra wives just become another burden on the state, i.e. the rest of the hard working monogamous population.  Trust a lawyer to totally overlook that crucial difference.

Can I divorce my husband, in a polygamous marriage, if he takes another wife?

No.­ However if the marriage was not actually polygamous at the date of the wedding ceremony, and only potentially polygamous according to the law of the country where you were married, and your husband had agreed not to take another wife, then it might be possible to divorce on the basis of an unreasonable behaviour petition.

Comment by Antony on March 22, 2015 at 6:37

Islamic invasion of Sweden has led to rape crisis ; http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=de1_1394099792

Comment by Alan Lake on March 12, 2015 at 4:49

Posted by Ruhannah on July 19, 2010 at 22:30

A Burka-wearing woman in Bradford, conveyed the following sentiments to her English language teacher, in Punjabi. This student speaks very little English, despite living in the U.K for some twenty years. Currently she attends classes at a local neigbourhood centre, but her attendance is very erratic because her husband does not approve. She spoke in response to todays news item about the Tory Cabinet Minister Caroline Spelman declaring that 'Burkas empower women'.

Not Feeling Free: British Woman in a Burka

Caroline Spelman is a fool

Let's hope her words

Will not rule

Maybe if I lived in France

There, I might have a chance.

Britain's so-called tolerance

Has brought brides from overseas

Like me,

Only misery and marginality

We are like the Jews,

Ghettoised.

Tell me, how British am I?

Lived here twenty years

Got a British passport,

But I still speak no English

I talk only in Punjabi

With my jailors you see,

So no I don't wake up

Feeling free

'Cos i got seven mornings

Of choice to wear these black and blue bloodied Burkas

While my boys are out of control

Selling drugs and making innocent girls, whores

While I dumbly

Watch their lips on their three mobile phones

Doing their wheeling and their dealing

And In this enforced ignorance

I don't feel empowered.

I am weak and dependant and so

To my shame, I cower.

Tell me where's the mutuality in the respect?

When Muslim men's creed

Disrespect breeds

'Cover up and you'll be safe

Otherwise Everywoman,

No matter what you say

Or how you behave

Uncovered you are just

Fair game'.

So all the sisters I know

WIth all their British passports

Are not free and do not grow,

Instead they grovel and tiptoe

Around the bIg bearded Egos

Building mosques on every street

Come and see us in Bradford and Huddersfield and Dudley

We the faceless voiceless ones

Trembling in our totalitarian

Blackened out

State.

 
 
 

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Mission Overview

Most prosperous Western societies are based on a model we call the Secular Democratic Marketplace (SDM). Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the principal agents exploiting these defects, is Islam. Therefore, this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks; nor to read them; nor even to record them. So 4F gives only a brief overview of how far it has advanced and by what methods.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow Muslims the possibility of escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close the 4 vulnerabilities in the standard model of SDM, by making them Self-Protecting (SP) according to Hobbes's first law of nature.
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Religion
Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight - except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)
4. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed only if it can be shown not to favour any political party

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