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It takes a nation to protect the nation

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"This is good news. Though it's a step in the right direction, I feel it's a baby ste…"

OldWarDog replied Apr 30, 2010 to Belgian lawmakers pass burka ban

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"ahhhhhh, if only I were in power..... Child abusers would feel my wrath. I don't bel…"

OldWarDog replied Mar 29, 2010 to Child Pornography's Business

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"It's little wonder paedos are converting to Islam left right and centre. Islam is wh…"

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"I feel your spirit sea angel. If only it were than simple. We have a much different…"

OldWarDog replied Jan 25, 2010 to A license to Abuse

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".......and these are the savages our government welcome with open arms into our coun…"

OldWarDog replied Jan 12, 2010 to Islamic/-ist Heaven of Dubai (or else): they rape you, you get jailed (or worste)

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"Thank you for the link. It's a video I've seen used on YouTube before and very distu…"

OldWarDog replied Jan 7, 2010 to Islamic world - Children in the Jihadi Cause

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"Thank you for the link, it leads to some very interesting sites."

OldWarDog replied Jan 7, 2010 to Islamic Heaven - The Role of Women

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"We've all read about the rat in Finland, but the Moroccan is news to me!! It was ha…"

OldWarDog replied Jan 3, 2010 to Islamic world - Abuses on wives and children

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"I wish there were more feminist groups in the UK who would come out and stand up aga…"

OldWarDog replied Dec 13, 2009 to Feminism, what Jihadists fear the most

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OldWarDog replied Nov 29, 2009 to Acid Attacks on Women

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Muslim Terrorism Count

Thousands of Deadly Islamic Terror Attacks Since 9/11

Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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